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Jim

On 7/11/2012 10:21 PM, thumper wrote:
On 7/7/2012 7:52 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , lid says...

On 7/5/2012 4:45 PM, BAR wrote:

It's all about what caused the big bang. If you take the chair-bound
guy
in England's view then you believe that it just happened. Hothing was
there before, it just happened.

There was no 'before'. Time is a property/dimension of the universe.

Time is measured from one point to another point. Without a "before"
there has to be a beginning. What was the beginning? Where did the
energy from the beginning come from or did it just exist in a state of
no time.

Only within this universe. What is south of the south pole?

Stand on the south pole and take 10 paces to the south. I think you will
find yourself marching in place.