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On 7/12/12 7:35 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , lid says...

On 7/7/2012 7:31 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/6/2012 10:45 PM, thumper wrote:
On 7/5/2012 4:45 PM, BAR wrote:

It's all about what caused the big bang. If you take the
chair-bound guy
in England's view then you believe that it just happened.
Hothing was
there before, it just happened.

There was no 'before'. Time is a property/dimension of the
universe.

There has to be a before. Who lit the fuse? The big bang didn't
just
happen.


Why not? Explain what causes quantum fluctuation.

We know the effect, we don't know the cause.


So, then, why *assume* some sort of "god" was involved. Why, because
it
is just another example of man trying to explain away what he doesn't
know via religious belief. Superstition.

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The problem with the "quantum fluctuation" answer is that by it's own
rules,
something had to exist before the Big Bang to have a quantum
fluctuation *in*
(thereby causing the Big Bang)

"What" that "something" is or was is the key to the next step in
understanding
the mystery that surrounds us ... assuming of course that we all
actual exist.