On 7/11/2012 1:58 PM, Califbill wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ...

On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:40:03 -0700, "Califbill"
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:05:50 -0700, "Califbill"
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Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney on Tuesday
asserted that the death penalty prevented “the most heinous crimes.”

This is what bothers me most about this loonie tune. He just is SOOOOO
disconnected with reality. Not even misdeal torture and death ever
dissuaded criminals from their criminal intent.

Certainly, the death penalty is perfect in its attempt to eradicate
recidivism (and I have no problem with that, if we have the right
person), but it has NEVER been successful at PREVENTING crime,
ESPECIALLY heinous crime.

Heinous crimes are committed by people divorced from reality, thus
fear of rational punishment never appears on their radar screen. Why
would we want a president that doesn't grasp the obvious?
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Why would you say it never prevented crime? I bet there was a lot less
cattle rustling in the old days when the trial was short and they hung
you
in a few days if that long. Basically we do not have a death penalty
now.
When it takes 20+ years if not more to execute a person, where is the
penalty.

Oh wow, you had to cite cattle rustling to make your point stick?

You obviously didn't read the article. It clearly states that states
with the death penalty have higher rates of murder than those without.

Please reread and learn something, Bill.
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You please learn something. Theres lies, damn lies, and statistics. We
really do not have a death penalty in this country. Sure we sentence
people to death, but how many actually get executed? There have been a
total of 1300 since 1976. 43 in 2011. As to murder rates. Texas has 5
per 100,000 and a death penalty. Illinois has no death penalty and a
5.5 per 100,00 rate. sort of blows your argument right there. Then we
have Washington DC. No death penalty, gun control and and a murder rate
of 24 per 100,000.


JPS was counting on you not looking it up.