On 7/6/2012 10:45 PM, thumper wrote:
On 7/5/2012 4:45 PM, BAR wrote:

It's all about what caused the big bang. If you take the chair-bound guy
in England's view then you believe that it just happened. Hothing was
there before, it just happened.

There was no 'before'. Time is a property/dimension of the universe.

There has to be a before. Who lit the fuse? The big bang didn't just happen.