On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:41:27 PM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote:
On 6/19/12 2:31 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 11:51:46 AM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote:
On 6/19/12 11:48 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 11:31:24 AM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote:
On 6/19/12 11:27 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 11:21:27 AM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote:
On 6/19/12 11:17 AM, wrote:
On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:45:24 AM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
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Knowing what everyone else makes is a union/government thing. Most
corporations have a confidentiality policy on salaries but they are
also merit based companies not simply time in grade,.

Your view is noted and rejected. Sounds like a culture issue.
I spent decades in salaried/bonused private enterprise.
As I said, I always knew ballpark what others were earning.
If you're competent and competitive, you wouldn't want it otherwise.
People talk. You can choose to not inquire, and keep your ears closed.
Best to know the market price of your abilities/products.
"Quiet rooms" never was my style.
Runs counter to keeping others' hands off my wallet.

I call BS. While I agree that it is a cultural thing to not discuss this among friends and relatives locally, I know it is officially discouraged at the company I work for. Just for fun I polled some friends who work at large companies in big cities... without an exception, they say that they are officially not allowed to discuss salary or bonus structure with peers, and doing so can, and has, led to dismissal. The only people they are allowed to discuss this with is their direct leader and HR. They know their direct report's salaries, of course, as they are involved with reviewing them and adjusting their compensation.



Crikey, are you a naive asshole or what?

This is how real business works, harry. You don't know anything about that, having sucked the union's teat for so long.



Bull****.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/jobcen...ary-talk_x.htm

As the article say, like it or not, clear expectations are set by many, if not most companies that salaries are kept private. You won't find it in the employee handbook (as it's illegal to have this "rule") but it's still clearly communicated. Most people find it in their best interest not to talk about it, again as the article points out.



Whatever the "expectation" is, people talk about their salaries, compare
them with their friends within and outside of the place where they work.

The article proves your "bs" was, well, BS.

The vast majority of the people I've encountered here and in my extensive travel in my job over the years don't talk about compensation. Of course a few do, and there are exceptions in some workplaces, but the vast majority in private industry don't. Period.

As to the cultural thing, in the South in polite company, you simply don't ask or tell about salary. My wife and I don't know what any of our family members are making (except for a couple of round numbers), and they don't ask us. Oh sure, a couple of workers at McDonalds would talk about that kind of stuff, but once you're in the professional realm at work, you just don't.

Obviously, polite company is something you don't understand.


Polite? South Carolina, possibly the most racist state in the United States.

Choke on it.

Maryland, home of the KKK. Choke on that.