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(Gw) wrote:

I don't care what books you read or who wrote them and why they decide
that the rules of physics changed because he is now being paid by what
company.

The Antenna begins at the tuner
The ground (system) begins at the antenna

Do you want the antenna radiating or the ground radiating?

Do you want the antenna as long as possible? (Look at an
antenna-engineering book to get the formula for antennas, hint: one of
the many factors that are DIRECTLY proportional is the length of
antenna (bet not very many of the non-engineer type antenna experts in
here knew that )) LOL just opened up a can of worms.

You want the ground of a vertical type antenna, sloper counts as that
in my book as it is only ¼ wavelength (not really but that's what the
tuner is for, to lie to the transmission line but really it changes
the feed point reactance, anyway I wasn't an English major and anyway
again you want the ground at the tuner to be an effective counterpoise
by coupling into the seawater without radiating any of that rf. Hot
grounds anyone, that's my story and I'm sticking to it

Gordie can write I can't he better stick to writing maybe some
children's books would be better

Yep, I agree with you and Gary on these points.......

Bruce in alaska
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