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On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:21:17 -0400, wrote:

http://www.tampabay.com/stand-your-ground-law/



The law is not stupid. The absolute lack of common sense in America
is. So is the fact that the richest Americans have, since
Eisenhower,
gradually bought more and more of the government until today,
they own
it.

A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.

The police are not available to protect you. They are available to
document the crimes you have committed or that have been committed
against you.

Yeah, the stand your ground law lets you kill innocent children,
that's
great huh?

No, the stand your ground law is being mis-applied in this case.
Zimmerman drew the line in the sand to stand his ground, but when HE
crossed that line, that action made that law inapplicable.

Apparently, Florida is common sense challenged.

Well true, but I said nothing about Zimmerman.

Then, if you aren't referring to Zimmerman, you are totally wrong.
Then your statement, "Yeah, the stand your ground law lets you kill
innocent children, that's great huh?" is totally false.


If Zimmerman walks, it'll be totally true.

Guess you are the only one left who hasn't figured out this isn't your
meal ticket, virtually all of Zimmermans story has been backed up by the
evidence AND witness initial testimony... Why do you think the rest of
the race baiters in Congress and the Media have left poor Treyvon Martin
behind? Come on harry, try to keep up...

Zimmerman opened the door for this confrontation. He rightfully
deserves a hefty portion of the criminal responsibility. Not all,
certainly, but a hefty portion as determined by the courts.

The homeowner who hears a commotion outside and who then goes outside
and finds someone trying to kill a person. The someone doing the killing
turns on the homeowner and lunges at him with a bloody knife and the
homeowner kills the guy with his gun. Did the homeowner initiate the
confrontation and should the homeowner be bear responsibility for a
hefty portion of the criminal responsibility of killing the killer?

Apples and Oranges. Now, you are talking (1) castle doctrine and (2) a
felonious act being committed.


I said nothing about the castle doctrine. I was addressing the issue of
Zimmerman exiting his vehicle with a person walking out of his house
after hearing a commotion.

You are the one who put the castle doctrine into plan in this scenario.

I was talking about the hefty portion of the criminal responsibility.


The problem with the FL law is that the judgment of good shooting or
not is made solely by a judge, a single man. That decision should be
made by 12.

Tell that to the guy in Philly.

He probably already knows that. The Castle Doctrine Act there requires
the "good shooting" decision to be made by the DA.

The judge found him guilty, not a jury.