"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Mark Browne" wrote in message
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In this state, the present governor and his legislature have sold out
to
the
unions. Make rules that raise the price of construction on public
contracts
sky high. Pay levels higher than 95% of jobs requiring a college
education.
Bill


I think your value system may need a tune-up.

College degree -verses- Technical and union jobs: most of the trades
require
technical school and apprenticeship. If you look at schooling and lost
opportunity costs the pay should be about the same. Unlike the college
degree, the trades are able to do something useful right out of school.

I don't have a lot of sympathy for the folks that claim - "I have a
college
degree but the only job I can get is flipping burgers." Many college
degrees
are useless; the trades should get more. Most employers really could
care
less if a potential candidate has written a masters thesis on "the
contributions of Mary Shelly" to the transition of modern literature -
or
some similar earthshaking accomplishment. They want someone who has the
right attitude and a good grasp of the basics of whatever it is they are
doing.

If you are envious of the wages made by construction workers, go get a
job
in the field - If you think it is just cushy high paid jobs like holding
slow/stop signs, go for it! I have worked around construction workers
on
and off for the last twenty years. It is my opinion that the earn their
wages.

Mark Browne



Building trades apprentices get paid while going to school. So very
little
lost opportunity cost vs. the full time college student. And most union
jobs are not skilled jobs. What training is required for prison guard
before they are hired? Service Employee's International: Janitors,
clerks,
etc. Laborer in the building trade $25-25 / hour. How much training for
manning a shovel?
Bill


Go for it. I'll bet you would last a few hours before you keeled over; you
might even pocket a few bucks before you washed out! After you are done with
your little adventure, come back and we can talk about whether you earned it
or not.

For that matter, I would like to see you work a day doing wipe-downs in a
car wash. You would be one tired pupply if you made it through the day. I'm
guessing you would not.

Mark Browne