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On 3/31/2012 10:52 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 3/31/2012 8:21 AM, wrote:

What law? Tell me how the Hold-Your-Ground Law even remotely applies
in this case. JPS can't. Can you?

If Martin sought to confront Zimmerman, you begin to have confusion
and contributory stupidity.

So, how did we get here? The police chief, Bill Lee refused to pursue
charges citing a law that most assuredly DID NOT APPLY.

I agree.

This has nothing to do with "gun interests," but I do hear from my
right-wing friends that Martin "had it coming." I see enough anger in
this newsgroup to believe this attitude is endemic among that crowd.

I am slightly right leaning and I say you are wrong on this point.


Not one person here indicated that Martin had it coming, didn't even
suggest it. harry has no friends, harry certainly has no right leaning
friends, and if he did, they certainly didn't say Martin had it coming.
Not even one of them...

So you agree that Zimmerman was wrong now, eh?

There?s a lull in the transmission and you can hear Zimmerman mutter
clearly to himself: "These assholes... They always get away." On other
calls between Zimmerman and the 911 dispatcher he refers to "f***ing
coons". CNN says the words are indistinct, which they aren?t. CNN also
says the case is "complicated", which it isn?t.

Later the Martin family lawyer relays Trayvon?s girlfriend?s account of
her last call with him. She says he told her that he was being followed.
She said: "Run". He said, "I'm not going to run, I'm just going to walk
fast." The girl later heard Trayvon say, "Why are you following me?" and
then another man ? Zimmmerman ? saying, "What are you doing around
here?" The girl thinks she heard a scuffle because Trayvon?s voice
changed as if something had interrupted his speech.

Mary Cutcher was in her kitchen making coffee that night with her
roommate, Selma Mora Lamilla. The window was open, she said."We heard a
whining. Not like a crying, boohoo, but like a whining, someone in
distress, and then the gunshot," she tells Anderson Cooper on CNN?s 360
show.

They looked out of the window but saw nothing. It was dark. They ran out
of the sliding glass door, and within seconds, they saw Zimmerman.

"Zimmerman was standing over the body... basically straddling the body
with his hands on Trayvon's back," Cutcher said. "And it didn't seem to
me that he was trying to help him in any way. I didn't hear any struggle
prior to the gunshot.

"And I feel like it was Trayvon Martin that was crying out, because the
minute that the gunshot went off, the whining stopped."

The two women said they could not see whether Zimmerman was bruised or
hurt. It was too dark.

"Selma asked him three times, 'What's going on over there?' " Cutcher
said. "He looks back and doesn't say anything. She asks him again,
'Everything OK? What's going on?' Same thing: looked at us, looked back.
Finally, the third time, he said, 'Just call the police.' "

The women, one white and one Latina, say flatly they don?t believe
Zimmerman?s story of how Martin had suddenly attacked him, punched him
in the face, broke his nose and that when Zimmerman ? larger than Martin
? feels he?s being overpowered he pulls out the gun and shoots Martin
through the chest. (Later Zimmerman declined medical attention.)



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