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On 3/26/2012 2:22 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:17:55 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 3/26/12 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:48:58 -0700, wrote:

You're backwards from what I've read. It was Martin that was calling
for help and Zimmerman who was doing the straddling.

The guy in the white shirt (hoodie?)was on top. Zimmerman had a red
shirt

Whatever the case, Zimmerman was told to stand down and wait for
officers to arrive.

He was told "we don't NEED you to do that". Not "don't do that" or
even we don't "want" you to do that.

Stand your ground will not be a successful
defense and will get overturned in your state legislature.

Bad, stupid law.

If Zimmerman's story is right, he wasn't standing his ground, he was
trying to get back in his truck. (retreating)
That is why I am waiting to see what the FBI says.
We have had a lot of people using inflammatory rhetoric without
hearing one defense witness or even hearing the defendant's story.
That is not justice. It is a lynching

Zimmerman murdered a kid wearing a hooded sweatshirt and carrying a soft
drink and a bag of candy. There isn't the slightest bit of evidence that
the kid was in any way threatening the shooter. In fact, the evidence to
date indicates the kid was chatting on his cellphone with his girlfriend.

Martin's last words in that chat are Martin challenging Zimmerman,

If you are seriously threatened on the
street, and let the prosecutors try to prove you weren't defending
yourself.

What the defense is going to say. This may not be a stand your ground
case at all.

The original self defense law says "fear imminent bodily "harm" (not
death)"

Zimmerman sustained bodily harm.

How long would you and the rest of the pistolaros here tolerate
someone over you beating you up while you are on your back on the
ground. The physical evidence and all of the witness statements are
consistent with that story.
Witness says
White shirt on top of another guy who is crying like a child and
getting pummeled
Evidence shows
Grass and dirt on the back of Zimmernans RED shirt, Martin's WHITE
hoodie, the cut on the back of Zimmerman's head and the bloody nose.

Martin's father said that was not his son's voice on the 911 call.

I am still waiting to see what all of this investigation turns up but
those are the facts as I have seen them. I know it is tragic when
anyone dies but actions have consequences. If martin attacked
Zimmerman for following him, this is not what has been presented in
the media and they will need to walk back a lot of this rhetoric.

It is unlikely that the Florida courts would find him guilty even that
they return an indictment unless we find out a whole lot more than we
know now.

Did Martin have any injuries indicating Zimmerman hit him?
Was his hoodie dirty?
What was the bullet trajectory?
Are there any more witnesses or even a video?

At the end of the day it is up to the prosecutor to prove, without a
shadow of a doubt that Zimmerman's story is not true, That is a tough
hill to climb with the evidence we have seen so far.

I suppose Holder could prosecute him for a thought crime but that is
what it would be.

Great level headed write up Greg...

Yeah, we need idiot vigilantes who'll patrol the streets of suburbia and
kill any kid they see with a hoodie and a bag of candy.