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On 2/29/2012 11:32 AM, X ` Man wrote:
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On 2/26/2012 3:20 PM, BAR wrote:
In
articlep_Kdnelbdrumw9fSnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d@earthlink .com,
dump-on-
says...

On 2/26/12 11:20 AM, BAR wrote:
In
articlebeCdnXwnuLSUytfSnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@earthlink .com,

dump-on-
says...

On 2/26/12 10:56 AM, BAR wrote:

Where are the independently duplicated and peer
reviewed
research
that
shows that second hand smoke causes health problems?

The medical and scientific fields are rife with
incorrect
conclusions,
sub-standard methods and politically driven persons.

What are your qualifications to find, understand, and
judge
legitimate
medical research?

You are too funny. What are you qualifications to
question
anyone
else's
qualifications?

I think if you are going to try to challenge
peer-reviewed
medical
research in scientific publications, you ought to have
some
recognizable
qualifications.

What are your qualifications to question anyone else's
qualifications?

It is having a huge effect on the market.. Changing the
whole
dynamic.
Taking the manufacture and distribution to a totally
different
level.
Away from organized criminal organizations, and
directly to
Suzie
Homemaker...

You must have excised the content here.

I think so. My comment was directed at the notion that 350
dollar an
ounce pot was not having an effect on the market... And it
certainly
is...

Ahh. I missed that. Is that up or down? And what effect
is it
having?

I do not endorse the use of any illegal substance, all of my
information
is based on hearsay, my own research over the internet, and
other
sources over the years who wish to remain anonymous.

OK,...here we go...
Well, back in 1976 an ounce was less than ten dollars. It
would
come
over from Jamaica or Vietnam with traveling service men, and
other
world
travelers, average Joes, it was still somewhat casual but
beginning to
go more main stream (move to the suburbs) from about 69 on.

At that time there were two distinctive levels of quality
available.
Regular like I said, less than ten buck an ounce, and then
the
specialty
stuff like Colombian Gold, and Panama Red which cold reach
the
amazing
price of 40 dollars an ounce...

Things really changed quickly in the 80's when criminal
elements
realized how much money was to be made on pot, and really
decided to
take over the business. One of the things they did right away
was
begin
to develop domestic production by sending growers from
California
all
over the country, north western Mass, and particularly to
Canada
where a
lot of the production moved indoors. This all made for a much
fresher
and significantly more potent, hand tended product rather
than
the
imported stuff which was often beat to **** and smelling of
something
foul by the time it gotpot to the US. Although the imported
stuff
was
still
available, by the mid 80's it was almost completely
replaced by
the
domestic crop and the prices skyrocketed to an average 200 an
ounce by
the mid 80's ten times more than it had been just a decade
earlier.

The whole market swung back in the last couple decades for
suburban
consumers anyway. With the availability of technology,
information on
the net, genetically superior seeds in the mail with
practically no
possibility of discovery has turned the whole market right
back
where it
started with random, unconnected (mostly non criminal except
for
the
pot) producers all over the country. Distribution has gone
back to
the
days of the local farmer, mostly serving local friends and
family.

Stronger and better (taste, smoothness, etc.) is being
genetically
developed all the time and some of the higher priced strains
now
can go
for nearly 500 an ounce for top bud (top plant material)...

There is still a good amount of poor quality imported stuff
coming
over
the border, but no longer the great strains of the past like
the
golds
and reds, just commercial bunk, mostly sold in the inner
city in
dime
bags on the street corner. That can still go for close to
200 an
ounce
if you were to find a distributor willing to sell that much.
Most of
them want to cut it to dime bags and make a fortune...

So, that's how the price of pot has effected the industry...
in a
nutshell

Ahh, thanks. I don't follow the pot price curve... :)

Hummm, yeah I know a couple here will get stupid but it's
all on
the up
and up. I get my info mostly from legal sites representing
legal
retail
stores across the country and world... I tend to stir them up a
bit as
although I know there are some very legitimate medical reasons
for
some
folks to smoke, I don't subscribe to the whole "medical
marijuana"
hoax,
I just believe in straight legalization... 95 to probably
98% of
the
folks using "medical marijuana" are full of crap...

Dope is dope Scotty. Do you suggest that all regulations on
dope be
rescinded?

No, I think Marijuana should be treated like Tobacco or
Alcohol...

Why tobacco?

I really don't understand the question... But I think it should be
sold
over the counter like cigarettes, or if necessary in more
controlled
retail setting like hard liquor and wine, here.

That's pretty liberal thinking.

You got me, I am a closet liberal But seriously, I have been
telling
you folks I am a Libertarian for years...

Why is it that you and Harry don't get along with each other better,
then?

Because we set our standards on a vastly different set of values...

What libertarian held values do you two disagree on?

I know this is where you want to take the group, but I'm not going
there...

Good for you. It's become obvious "Oscar" misses the bad old days around
here, and would like to re-ignite the flame wars.

Just trying to clear up some apparent misstatements,both you and Scotty
made.

When it comes to pot smoking, I had an up close experience with the
stuff a hundred years ago. Not being a drug user, I can't think of any
other way to describe what it's like to be a drug user. Maybe you can
shed some light on the subject.

No sireee! No Flames, no name calling, no personal insults (including
education), no swearing.

You're walking a fine line here, except for a few slipups. I doubt you
can keep it up.

--
O M G