On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:18:55 -0800, "Califbill" wrote:

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On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:03:59 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

How does a
morbidly obese person affect you second hand like smokers do?

Higher health care costs?
Ever been stuck in the center seat on an airliner between two fat
****ers ? I would rather they were skinny people, smoking.

I've already been over that. With smokers, you not only get the benefit
of having to pay for their continued healthcare, you also get the
benefit of a high risk of cancer, heart disease, stroke, emphysema, etc.
by being forced to inhale their smoke. No other disease or addiction
does that.


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Smokers have been shown to have less of an overall societal cost than non
smokers in some studies. They die earlier with less end of live cost, and
less social security payout. Plus the enormous amount of taxes they have
paid to smoke. Lots more than the health insurance for smokers only would
have cost. Plus look how much money they put in circulation. One of the
reasons Altria has been one of the best investments since 1970.

Then you're not taking into account the toll from second hand smoke.


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No studies have really proved that much damage from 2nd hand smoke. but the
$2-3+ tax on each pack of cigarettes will pay for any extra societal costs.
And I think NY has about an $8 a pack tax. NYC adds to that some more tax.
Might as well agree to a carbon tax, extra boat taxes Maybe $2k a year for a
powered recreational boat. Boat not really needed and some of those people
who think that kayaks and man powered vessels should be the only thing on
waterways. Where you going to stop excess taxing? NY hid their
overspending by adding a couple bucks tax to each pack. Why should just one
segment pay for the rest overspending? Now that you agree to a tax for
consuming an unhealthy substance, please cough up 200% tax on each McD
burger and 500% on fries. Probably McD and Burger King and Jack kill more
than all the tobacco companies combined. Obesity is an epidemic!

Ain't that the truth!