On 12/17/2011 4:10 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/12/2011 2:46 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article75udndIyFP6jOnbTnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 12/16/11 1:57 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/12/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/16/11 6:38 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 12/15/11 9:10 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 15/12/2011 12:26 PM, North Star wrote:


I remember when we got our first office pc...
Only designated people were allowed near it and no one was
allowed to
eat, drink or smoke in it's vicinity.





Back then they were union North American made and cost $8000 in old
1980
dollars, which according to the government inflation calculator
is $22K
today.

Back then was 1982 or 1983 for IBM's first PC, and they weren't
anywhere
near $8000 in US or Canadian dollars. They were less than a
quarter of
that amount, and only some parts in them were "American-made."
Further,
IBM wasn't unionized. In fact, about the only large-scale supplier of
PC's who was unionized back in the early to middle "PC" days was AT&T
and even those boxes were merely assembled from parts made outside
the
USA.

I bought one of the first IBM PC's sold to consumers in our area,
from a
dealer in Northern Virginia.

So, as usual, you are full of crap. Like your shower buddy,
iSnotty, you
have no real knowledge of actual history in any area.


Addendum...bought my first IBM PC in 1982, apparently, a few months
after they were introduced in 1981. Paid $1650 in 1982 dollars, not
$8000 or anything near that.


http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/ex...c25_birth.html

Says $1,565 as list for striped bare. However everything else is extra.
Monitor, software, hard drive storage, second floppy, memory, modem,
printer, even shipping with Canadian pricing it was $8000. Even the
"Basic" and assembler packages cost extra. Even the ST506 hard drive
controller was extra. As was the power supply upgrade if you wanted
hard
drives.

So $1,565 is like buying a car without the windshield, seats, steering
wheel and wheels. For Canadians, taxes and duties extra.

So blow it out your ass there harryk fleabagger. The real cost of a
usable system was $8000.


I paid $1650. Didn't buy overpriced monochrome PC monitor. Bought with
one floppy, bought second floppy later. Dealer gave me software.
Sorry....your claim of $8000 or anywhere near it is bull****.

Your $1650 is bull****.

He probably stuck his video cable up his ass for $1650.... and he damned
things were unusable with only one floppy. Switching disks from the OS
disk to the other disk, mind you better than the paper tap and thumb
wheel bootstrap ones. 32k of ram, well, you wouldn't run much on that.

First computer, IBM 360 keypunch, Fortran in high school. Second was a
PDP 4 I think, only 4 terminals at 4 was it 8k of memory each. But what
hooked me into computing was he first Commodore PET machines. After that
I only wanted microprocessors even though I did HP 300/3000 and MF work.
Showing my age.... But at least harryk isn't as bad as some jack asses
today that think Microsoft invented the Internet. But a bull****ter all
the same.


Naw. Harry Krause knows that Al Gore invented the Internet.