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			Just make sure solar panels are mounted flat as mine are mounted on an angle 
and if prevailing wind is in the wrong direction they do not pick up much 
sun. 
"Skip Gundlach"    wrote in 
message ...  
 Hi, Group(s)... 
 
 This and other recent responses (left below for reference) just reinforce
my  
 thoughts on wind and solar.  Where we're going, wind is nearly a given,
all  
 the time, and sunshine, too, for many hours a day.  A constant (well, 
 continuous) input at an appropriate rate seems to me to be the best 
 charging, assuming you have the capacity to keep however much you are 
 charging, up. 
 
 I loved Steve's comment about his fridge running because he'd forgotten to 
 shut it off when he disconnected the batteries, and the solar panels were 
 keeping up with the draw. 
 
 I'd a whole lot rather keep the batteries topped up and the engine(s) off. 
 I'm into quiet in a big way.  Even if it weren't entirely sufficient, 
 perhaps the engine running could be limited to times per week rather than 
 times per day. 
 
 So, back to an earlier place, I'm getting more serious about the
possibility  
 of sale (see earlier for details, and my URL for some pix) of the genset. 
 The few K it might be worth would go a long way toward the installation of
a  
 proper arch for solar and wind - and along the way I'd have what I've been 
 told are a very good and pretty pricey set of davits available, too!
Maybe  
 selling the davits would allow another battery bank (after the genset left 
 to provide the space, of course!). 
 
 L8R 
 
 Skip, and Lydia, by proxy 
 
 PS for those who ca  I'm doing absolutely famously post-op on my
shoulder  
 surgery.  Checkup is in 4 days, and active rehab begins in 4 weeks.  If
it's  
 anything like what I've experienced so far, we may have to move our 
 timetable back up! 
 
 -- 
 Morgan 461 #2 
 SV Flying Pig 
 http://tinyurl.com/384p2 
 
 "And then again, when you sit at the helm of your little ship on a 
 clear night, and gaze at the countless stars overhead, and realize 
 that you  are quite alone on a great, wide sea, it is apt to occur to 
 you that in the general scheme of things you are merely an 
 insignificant speck on the surface of the ocean; and are not nearly 
 so important or as self-sufficient as you thought you were.  Which is 
 an exceedingly wholesome thought, and one that may effect a 
 permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly appreciated 
 by your friends."  - James S. Pitkin 
 
 "Larry W4CSC"  wrote in message 
 ... 
  Wayne.B  wrote in 
  news 
  
   On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 08:50:10 -0400, "Doug Dotson" 
    wrote: 
   
  You can go up to a 160 amp alternator without having to 
  resort to a large frame dual belt model. 
   
   ======================================== 
   
   Doug, can you cite some references on that?  I've never heard of 
   anyone recommending 100+ amps without dual belts.  I used to run a 120 
   amp Balmar on one of my old sailboats with a single belt.  Frankly it 
   left a lot to be desired even at 50 to 60 amps - lots of squealing and 
   chewed up belts.  It would never get even remotely close to 100 amps, 
   even for short periods.  The belt slip was just too much for it. 
   
   
  
  Lionheart's big alternator has only one belt on the alternator's crooked 
  pulley.  It only draws 100+ amps for a few minutes, so if you keep the 
 belt 
  tight it's fine. 
  
  Why does everyone think a 200A alternator is going to charge house 
  batteries at full current for 20 minutes and end up with a fully-charged 
  set of house batteries?  That's CRAZY!  The amount of current it will
draw  
  has NOTHING to do with the peak current an alternator puts out.  The 
  alternator puts out its rated output until the battery voltage rises 
  somewhere near the regulator's set voltage, then the current drops 
  DRASTICALLY to a more sane level to safely charge the plates.  A surface 
  charge quickly raises the voltage, then the real charging begins SLOWLY 
  creating the chemical reaction, we hope, that recovers most of the lead 
  sulphate in solution back to lead plates before it crystalizes and falls 
  into the bilge of the battery. 
  
  Your boat can no more fully charge your boat battery at really high 
  currents than your local garage can fully charge your car battery in 20 
  minutes.  It's just a SURFACE charge!  To fully charge the house
batteries  
  takes HOURS of SLOW charging to re-plate the lead which takes TIME!! 
  
  Sorry...... 
  
  Larry 
  
  The funniest thing at any marina is a boater with a new 4KW inverter 
  carrying his electric heater down the dock with a big smile on his face. 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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