On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:36:38 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 24/11/2011 7:59 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 11:56:31 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 00:52:05 -0500, wrote:

you're ignoring the whole point to the difference between tax rates
and marginal tax rates. middle class tax rates are 28%. that is a
fact.

What is the effective tax rate? (What you actually pay)
I showed you it is 12% or less for a couple ,making $100,000.

the effective tax rate depends on ALOT of factors, many of which the
right wants to elmiinate for the middle class in favor of cutting
taxes for the wealthy.

aint no right winger talking about eliminating middle class taxes like
they are capital gains

Tax capital gains 2 things happen.

1) USA is less attractive for investing and less jobs.

wrong. in fact, an argument for taxing capital gains is precisely to
drive finanical instruments overseas and quit subsidizing false
investments that have dstroyed our economy.

there is no proof that cutting capital gains leads to jobs. none. it's
right wing propaganda. bush cut capital gains from 29% to 15%

and this is the economy we got.

where are the jobs??

2) Those that do invest will get double the gains to pay the taxes and
it will come from wages.

wrong. if they're in a competiitive market for jobs OR if there are
unions, like in more advanced countries, then capital gains taxes will
come from stock holders

Either way, just screwing the middle class.

bull****. i just showed why you're wrong.

where are the jobs?

where are they??


Tax greed isn't going to solve DCs problem but it is liable to make it a
whole lot worse.