On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 01:38:30 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 19:33:32 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:22:38 -0500, wrote:

This is the Library of Congress,. not another opinion site that you
googled up.

an opinion site?? uh..since when is a record of which members of
congress voted for/against a bill an 'opinion'?

Bob the vote you referenced was NOT the bill that passed the senate.
Read the activity. Whole sections of that June bill were thrown away
and replaced with Senate language.,
BTW it is interesting that the DEMOCRATS voted overwhelmingly positive
AFTER the Bob Gramm amendment was added and, as you pointed out, they
voted against the bill BEFORE the Gramm amendment.

it's interesting to note you ignore the wholesale sponsor of the bill
by republican conservatives, the support given to it by conservatives,
the fact it was part of a MUCH larger bill AND the continued support
of deregulation...a failed policy, BY conservatives.

conservatives are completely immune to evidence


do you know what an opinion IS??

I know what spin is. They want you to believe the democrats voted
against the bill when they voted FOR the FINAL bill in greater numbers
than the republicans. That is simply a lie that you gobbled up.

the lie is that deregulation works.

it doesnt. the facts are quite clear to everyone EXCEPT conservatives
who are quite willing to sacrifice the US as long as the rich stay
rich

and let's look at what the consensus of economic opinion is regarding
the financial meltdown is, shall we??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Gramm

Changing the subject again?

gee. kind of like saying you're in favor of rat poison as long as it's
proven not to hurt anyone

ignoring the consequences of your ideolgy, arent you?



In its 2008 coverage of the financial crisis, The Washington Post
named Gramm one of seven "Key Players In the Battle Over Regulating
Derivatives", for having "[p]ushed through several major bills to
deregulate the banking and investment industries, including the 1999
Gramm-Leach-Bliley act that brought down the walls separating the
commercial banking, investment and insurance industries".[16]

True but the DEMOCRATS voted overwhelmingly to support BOTH bills
after Gramm was done with them.

the bill was sponsored by conservatives

cosponsored by conservatives

supported by conservatives AND

even though we are living TODAY...right NOW with the consequences

conservatives STILL SUPPORT deregulation



Snip more opinion

you can run but you can't hide. the fact is this dolchstoss had the
greedy right wing...gramm and greenspan, as its authors

Gramm, Greenspan, Rubin and Summers. Three of 4 of those were Clinton
appointees.

and who did greenspan work for after clinton?

oh. george bush

kinda forgot that didnt you?