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On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait
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On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote:
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg...


Huh? whadda you know?

Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global
warming isn't
happening, are you?

I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice
shelves were
melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you
hear about
a massive chunk of ice forming and....

I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're
supposed to have a decent frost last night.

I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are
completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has
been
expeiencing the past year.

Are you aware of the spike in tornados?

So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this
year was
mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same
thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years.

Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh,
the shame of it all.

He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without
a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man.

OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man
CONTRIBUTES to global warming.

But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder
than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will
probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now...

The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning
thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a
tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it
can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world
gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world
has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More
hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are
doing
what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance
things out
like it's been doing for 4 billion years...

The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of
that are truly scary.

Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I
actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem.

Show me one...



Forget the silly carbon credit stuff. That's just crap.

LED lightbulbs.
Insulation
Carpools
Vegetable and fruit gardens
Fuel efficient cars
sealing your home to lower heating and cooling costs
Making your own green cleaning products
Using the library as opposed to buying books
Irrigating with rain water
Stand-by power strips
Paperless billing and online bill pay

If you need more, hit me up!

Lowes had 40W LED bulbs on sale last week for $10 They seem to have the
brightness of 60W I bought 20 of them.

What are stand by power strips?


Those things are made by slave labor in China, polluting the environment
worse than a lot of other technology, and through practical experience I
can tell you, they don't actually last that much longer than regular
bulbs in frequent service on and off cycles like in the bathroom. They
are great for the attic or basement or other places but I hate changing
them so often, it's nerve wracking...

They don't pollute any more than a standard light bulb. Where did you
get that idea? And they last about 25 TIMES longer.

Bull****. I use them in our home for years and they might last twice as
long, but rarely..

I've had them in my home for four or five years and haven't replaced one
YET. You are getting CFL's mixed up with LEDs

Yeah, but you guys were talking about led's I never mentioned them...

What??? YOU replied to Drifter's comment and my answer by saying that
"they" (when we are talking about LED's) pollute the environment. So how
would one conclude that "they" could be something other than LED's?