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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg...



Huh? whadda you know?

Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global
warming isn't
happening, are you?

I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice
shelves were
melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you
hear about
a massive chunk of ice forming and....

I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November,
we're
supposed to have a decent frost last night.

I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are
completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has
been
expeiencing the past year.

Are you aware of the spike in tornados?

So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this
year was
mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same
thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years.

Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh,
the shame of it all.

He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or
without
a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man.

OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man
CONTRIBUTES to global warming.

But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder
than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will
probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now...

The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning
thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a
tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles
where it
can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world
gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world
has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine.
More
hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are
doing
what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance
things out
like it's been doing for 4 billion years...

The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of
that are truly scary.

Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I
actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem.

Show me one...



Forget the silly carbon credit stuff. That's just crap.

LED lightbulbs.
Insulation
Carpools
Vegetable and fruit gardens
Fuel efficient cars
sealing your home to lower heating and cooling costs
Making your own green cleaning products
Using the library as opposed to buying books
Irrigating with rain water
Stand-by power strips
Paperless billing and online bill pay

If you need more, hit me up!


LED Light bulbs.. they pollute the earth so much, the slight savings are
mitigated...

Insulation is not a "green" thing, we have been using it since cave man
days. Same with carpools, gardens etc... I want to see new technology
based on "green" investment like Solara..



Anything that cuts back on the use of fossil fuel or cuts back on
pollutants can be called "green."

Insulation certainly is "green," as are carpools and gardens.



so then we really don't need to be wasting tax payer money on friends of
Obama and their shell companies?

Are you really so damned narrow minded by Fox that you don't understand
that coming up with new technology to lessen the middles east's grip on
our collective balls through oil is a good thing??? I know, fossil fuels
that pollute the environment is the only way in your eyes, I've heard
Rush before.

Are you really so narrow minded you think the government is a better
judge of what is gonna' work than free enterprise?

Oh, yeah, the large corporations and wall street are doing a grand job
of putting people back to work. Again, what is bad about new technology
that you far right wingers seem so afraid of?