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On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:08:17 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:11:06 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 22:42:00 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:13:56 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 20:31:59 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:23:19 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 08/09/2011 11:12 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 02:21:07 -0400, wrote:

You seriously believe that all costs are passed along to the consumer?
All costs? Feel free to try and defend that statement.

As I actually said, the "insurance claims are.. a tiny piece of the
pie."

Ultimately yep, all costs will be passed on to the consumer. Take oil,
go ahead, slap a $90/barrel tax on oil and watch the pump prices double
or more.

A classic example was the massive judgement against the cigarette
companies. Shortly after that Altria posted record profits.

I doubt there's much causation between the two. Feel free to provide
some facts that support this causation.

They certainly passed all the costs on to the customer, plus a huge
profit.

The cost being lung cancer. Of course, they don't need to be
regulated, right? The consumer should be able to figure it out without
any help from the gov't. Why they can just stop, and if they can't,
they must be weak-minded and deserve to get sick. - this is the
mantra of the right, including Ron (non-St.) Paul.

People who smoke know it is dangerous, everyone has known that for 40
years. They are hooked on the drug and they keep doing it. You can say
the same thing about a lot of drugs, legal and illegal.
It is really none of our business.

If you are worried about the cost of Medicare you should like smokers.
A lot of them will die before they ever even get to 65.
Most avoid going to the doctor and they die fairly cheaply compared to
a "healthy" person who lives to 85, getting artificial hips, organ
transplants, cataract operations and tons of expensive drugs.

It sounds cruel but it is the choice they made.

My non-smoking grandfather lived to 100 and cost Medicare a bundle. My
smoking parents both died young and didn't have any significant
medical bills at all. My smoking sister is pretty much on her death
bed and still not on medicare. (Dec 01, 11 based on her husband's age)

What about kids? Are they supposed to understand those dangers? How
old do they have to be? Tobacco companies have and continue to promote
smoking to kids. What about second hand smoke?

But, that's ok in a society (oh wait, it wouldn't be a society) that
ignores public health.