"Canuck57" wrote in message ...

On 25/08/2011 12:15 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 10:40:26 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 17:07:49 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message
news

i suggest you read a bit more and stop listening to glen and rush. you
may learn something


Reply:
I am really confused now.

gee. you finally said something honest


When Bush cut taxes it hurt the middle class and
helped the rich.

gee. the right is all bitchy about deficits

the bush tax cuts are the largest contributor to the deficit

so you're confused that your own right wing polcies created the debt
you now say is a problem

Now when Obama takes over those same tax cuts, since he
did not repeal them there are his tax cuts now, they help the middle
class,
as well as his rich class supporters. could you explain your lack of
thinking?

so you say we need to increase taxes on the middle class even though
we middle class taxpayers havent had a pay increase in 30 years

AND just bailed out the rich

no wonder you're confused


Reply:
I am confused about your comments. When the tax cuts were Bush tax cuts
they were bad according to you. Now that they are Obama tax cuts they
are
good according to you. Confusing, grasshopper. Damn correct we need to
raise middle class taxes. When 46% of the families in America pay no
Federal
Income Tax, something is wrong. Maybe if they also had to pay, they
would
require the Federal Government to live within their means. We also need
to
raise the tax on the rich, and cut Federal Spending. And if you have not
had a raise in pay in 30 years, you suck as a worker.

You're confused because you can't understand a simple concept like
context.

Bush squandered a SURPLUS with his mostly for the rich tax cuts. The
economy was booming, and the result of the tax cuts did nothing for
jobs. Job growth was stagnant.

You keep repeating the same BULL**** about 46% don't pay income taxes.
Well, they're poor and/or unemployed, so yes, they don't pay income
tax on money they don't have. Brilliant! You want to tax them on money
they don't have and can't afford. But, you have no problem giving rich
assholes all the breaks. All those millionaires on Wall Street... the
ones who drove this economy into the ground, give them plenty of
breaks because, in your small world of nonsense, they're "job
creators." What a load of crap. All those companies, sitting on
TRILLIONS of dollars, unwilling to hire people IN THIS COUNTRY, gotta
give them tax breaks, so they can hire more people ELSEWHERE.

We don't need to cut Federal Spending right now. That's the absolute
WORST thing to do to stimulate job growth. We need the Congress to
stop thinking past their next election, which wouldn't be an issue
(Dem or Rep) if they actually started thinking, and CREATE jobs.
Infrastructure jobs would be a good start. That would create all sorts
of downstream jobs. THAT is what will work right now.

Obama and the Dems need to get some balls and stand up to the morons
like you.

Feel free to ignore my post. You are very, very afraid of the truth,
apparently.

Funny, Obama and the democrats are bull****ers that ruined America.
They hold no cards, at least with me.

--
If it is all Bush's fault, then how come Obama is doing much more of the
same and expecting different results?


Reply:
Where is the "stimulus" Money coming from? How the hell is Congress going
to "create jobs"? Just hire more federal workers? More federal
contractors? Where is the financing going to come from for those who may
really want to create real jobs? Clinton did not leave a surplus. He left
an economy going in to the dumper. He, just like California, which you can
see is bankrupt, did the same thing. Instead of paying down the debt, he
increased spending. He increased it in to the future. So all that dot.com
money was squandered! And Base Line Budgeting is criminal. An automatic
8-13% increase in spending is a budget with no growth? Stimulus by
definition helps an ongoing reaction. Where is the real reaction? Where
are the jobs that have been created for the last $2 trillion of
overspending? Why are we still in Iraq and Afghanistan, and opened another
war front in Libya? War economy? We do not have 46% of families in
poverty. So why do 46% not pay any Federal Income Tax? Using tax money to
create jobs sounds like the Soviet Union, and they broke up because of
bankruptcy basically. Both the Dems and Repubs are screwing us.