On 8/16/2011 10:25 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 22:05:04 -0400, wrote:

On 8/16/2011 8:29 PM, wrote:

I remember shortly after they did the "Lady Bird" renovations to Blue
Plains they had the manager on TV and he scooped up a cup of the
effluent water and drank it.
They were saying the water below Blue Plains was cleaner than the
water up stream.


We had a little burst of E-coli coming down the Caloosahatchee last
week but it cleared up

http://esetappsdoh.doh.state.fl.us/i...spx?county=Lee

I do water samples in the Estero River and if people knew the numbers
they wouldn't want to touch it in February when the snowbirds are here
I was familiar with testing that was done on -- river. Numbers looked
really bad. They were told the test were not right and to re do the test
until they got real numbers. That is not the exact language.
The orders areto serve the Political leadership. Do your job and lose
it. the law is what the politician says it is not what is on the book.
civil Service was valuable in that it kept that from happening many many
times.

That is one reason why the data we collect is fairly pure. We do not
report to anyone in the government and the people we do work with in
DEP do their damnedest not to get caught up in political fights. They
really discourage broadcasting the data we collect officially and
allowing it to be used for going after polluters ... but that doesn't
stop us from collecting "other" data sets that can be used to ring the
alarm bell.

The official data is really meant to be a scientific history source,
not anything that is in real time. Although we can get our snapshots
from the labs fairly quickly, it does not get published for quite a
while and it is usually defining trends and projections. I doubt most
politicians even know we exist.
I don't have a feel for the in and outs of it. But Policy comes before
mandate or law apparently. The Politician probably has no idea who is
involved but if the numbers don't match their policy or agenda than
well.**** flows down hill. Political appointees are there for a reason.