On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:44:17 -0600, Canuck57
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On 14/07/2011 1:04 AM, Califbill wrote:
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:56:05 -0700, "Califbill"
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On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:48:18 -0400, L G wrote:

wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote:


****ing IDIOT

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm

am i EVER wrong? no.

YOU guys are IDIOTS

So, in your small mind, you associate the size of the US government with
the tax revenue it collects? You aren't only blind, you are a moron,
Bobbie!

gee. someone's gotta pay for it. how's the GOP doing in tax cutting?
any specifics?

oh. none. the right keeps telling us we're overtaxed

oh. you're lying about that.

moron

Reply:
Moron? We do not have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem!

OK he starts with a typical right wing cliche.

we DIDNT have a spending problem until conservatives cut taxes and got
us into a war...NONE of which they paid for.

but his solution is to bankrupt the middle class.

The
government requires excess wages in any government contract.

meaningless. where's the proof this has ANY bearing on the deficit.
you right wingers BORROW AND SPEND. conservatives are the BIGGEST
SPENDERS IN HISTORY

Not what the
market can support, and then taxes the rest of the people to enforce the
excess payments.

notice he ignores the FACT that US taxes are the lowest in

SIXTY YEARS. yep. SIXTY YEARS

so far we have cliches, lies and right wing bull****.


Living Wage! **** that! Pay what the job is worth.
Minimum wage should be for those starting out with little skills.

proof that minimum wage has had ANY effect on the economy?

none. none at all...BUT

wall street went from 20% of GDP to FOURTY PERCENT OF GDP between 1997
and 2007

HE IGNORES THAT. THAT destroyed our economy...NOT the minimum
wage...but, like the right wing moron he is, he cant blame the rich so
he blames the WORKING POOR


We have inflated wages so much
we have priced ourselves out of most manufacturing jobs. UAW built crap
cars and not caring about the quality, drove buyers to foreign cars.
Better
quality for the same price. Was also management, but the workers did not
help. Management should have been fired also. They assemble them here
with
lower cost workers. Screwed the UAW workers for being overpaid,

we have no unions in the US and countries, like SWEDEN and GERMANY
with STRONG UNIONS OUTPERFORM THE US in manufacturing

but he ignores that.

see a pattern here?

blame the worker

blame the poor

dont...under ANY circumstances...blame the rich. never. ever ever
ever.

right wing bull****.

Every business in
the country is cutting back on employees and spending. Except for the US
Federal Government. They have added 36,000 more employees and increased
wages for most of the government employees.

well let's look at the number of federal employees, shall we? the best
way to measure this is in number of employees divided by the
population since this accounts for population growth. and here's what
we find:


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fed...ers_are_t.html


oh, dear. the right winger is ****ed again. obama has DROPPED the
number of employees per capita, vs bush!!

so this means the right winger is full of ****, right?

you bet!

Raise taxes all you want, but
without meaningful spending cuts, we are doomed. We need at least a $1.5
trillion dollar cut in spending, not a pathetic $36 Billion cut. Less
than
a percent.

gee. obama is willing to cut entitlements. he's proposed cuts to
social security and medicare

but the right wing is hell bent on ensuring the rich stay rich so wont
raise taxes


We also need to scrap the requirement to pay prevailing wages as
now defined.

why? proof this will have ANY effect on the deficit?

none. but it DOES **** the american worker. and THAT is the whole goal
of the right

The definition seems to be whatever the highest union
negotiated wage is, not what is prevailing as paid in the industry.

proof that unions are bad for america? none. in fact the countries
with strongest unions have the best manufacturing


We need
to allow companies to fire union workers who are incompetent a lot
easier.

unemployment is at record highs. what is firing MORE workers going to
do?

but this ****s more workers

Sure the union can protect workers from unjust termination, but a person
drunk on the job, should be fired.

there are no unions in america. america has the lowest percentage of
workers in unions than any western country

but this continues the right's goal of ****ing the last vestiges of
any american worker




Sure there should be changes to the tax code, but those are not going to
stop the deficit.

so he obsesses over

non existent unions
minimum wage workers

and completely ignores the wealthy who've ****ed this country blind in
the last 3 years.

yep. right wing bull**** all the way

what a ****ING IDIOT


May reduce in a minimal amount, but not what spending
cuts would do. Kill the alcohol farm subsidy. Tax hedge fund managers at
wage level not capitol gains level. Kill the cotton subsidy, kill a
lot of
the water subsidy. Where a farmer can pay $10 an acre foot and resell
it to
towns at $1000. Spending cuts are what are needed. There are not enough
tax revenues available to rescue us.

he thinks we can balance the budget on the backs of minimum wage
workers!!

HAHAHAHAHAH


Reply:
Freaking moron! You have zero knowledge of econ 101. Why you are crying
the blues about your finances. We can balance the budget buy cutting
spending. By at least 1.5 Trillion bucks. Those farmers making $990 an
acre foot profit on water are not minimum wage. Those Hedge fund
managers making $400 million a year and getting it as a 15% dividend are
no minimum wage. I said kill the minimum wage for any worker in the
workforce 10 years. If you can not earn more than MW after that time,
you do not deserve MW. Maybe that is your problem. Could not earn enough
for the employer for them to keep paying you.

Yep. I think fleabag math missed that when lowering interest rates it
lso allowed for companies to make less and keep shareholders happy. 0%
rates and a 3% profit isn't as taxable as say 6% rates and 9% earnings.
Like I have always said, the 2006 democrat congress adopting low
interest rates was the wrong thing to do. They cut their revenue
throats literally. All for the greed of fraud low interest rates and
perceived preservation of big fat government.

Wasn't jsut companies. If you have a million in the retirement fund and
get 6% interest rates or big dividends you pay taxes. Guess what? at
sub 1% interest rates and less than 2% dividend yields you don't pay
much if any taxes.

2006 democrats, Obama and Bernanke plainly put the gun to governments
head and blew it away.

It is so incompetent that it must be deliberate. Is this an intentional
decimation of the US economy? I have to ask as my investment buddies
all were on to this in 2008. How long does it take for Obama idiot to
figure it out?

Start by cutting military spending by 65%, medicare/medicated by 40%,
welfare, what is that? Bailout no more. If bailouts are needed, jail
cells await. Target governemt to reduce payrool by 50%, may include
wage roll backs, caps, jb sharing whatever, but in 4 months, 50%
reduction in payroll. Michelle can go from 50+ hairdressers to 1.

USA needs to pray for a president with some economic savvy and some
guts. Might I suggest a woman who has managed a household budget? Fast
track butt kissers with jive talking big mouths don't seem to make the
grade.

2006??? 2008??? That would be GWB moron.