On 11/07/2011 1:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:48:18 -0400, L G wrote:

wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote:




the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's
too big since it means they can still examine wall street


Post proof or retract.

you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO
****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have
your cliches and that's it

****ing IDIOT

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm

am i EVER wrong? no.

YOU guys are IDIOTS

So, in your small mind, you associate the size of the US government with
the tax revenue it collects? You aren't only blind, you are a moron,
Bobbie!

gee. someone's gotta pay for it. how's the GOP doing in tax cutting?
any specifics?

oh. none. the right keeps telling us we're overtaxed

oh. you're lying about that.

moron

Reply:
Moron? We do not have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem! The
government requires excess wages in any government contract. Not what
the market can support, and then taxes the rest of the people to enforce
the excess payments. Living Wage! **** that! Pay what the job is worth.
Minimum wage should be for those starting out with little skills. After
10 years in the workforce, there should be no minimum wage required. If
you can not produce more than the MW you would earn, then you are not
worth hiring. I do not care if it was Right or Left who overspent. And
both parties did the overspending. Both parties have caused inflation
over the last 30 years. When Nixon instituted wage and price controls
the inflation rate was an unacceptable 3.3%. Over the last 30 years we
have exceeded 4.8% a year rate. 1980 a mid level engineer, with a
college degree made about $22k-23k a year. Now that is poverty level. We
have inflated wages so much we have priced ourselves out of most
manufacturing jobs. UAW built crap cars and not caring about the
quality, drove buyers to foreign cars. Better quality for the same
price. Was also management, but the workers did not help. Management
should have been fired also. They assemble them here with lower cost
workers. Screwed the UAW workers for being overpaid, underworked,
careless workers. Same in a lot of other industries. All that deficit
spending, is hurting the country in a couple of ways. Serious hurting!
Inflating the US dollar to make us less competitive, and sucking up most
of the capitol available to loan. Where is business who needs capitol to
start of expand, going to get that capitol? Every business in the
country is cutting back on employees and spending. Except for the US
Federal Government. They have added 36,000 more employees and increased
wages for most of the government employees. Raise taxes all you want,
but without meaningful spending cuts, we are doomed. We need at least a
$1.5 trillion dollar cut in spending, not a pathetic $36 Billion cut.
Less than a percent. We also need to scrap the requirement to pay
prevailing wages as now defined. The definition seems to be whatever the
highest union negotiated wage is, not what is prevailing as paid in the
industry. We need to allow companies to fire union workers who are
incompetent a lot easier. Sure the union can protect workers from unjust
termination, but a person drunk on the job, should be fired. Not have a
court rule you have to keep them on the payroll. Happened to the SF Muni
transit district. Drunk bus driver. They were required to pay him back
wages and reinstate him in the job. A drunk bus driver!
Sure there should be changes to the tax code, but those are not going to
stop the deficit. May reduce in a minimal amount, but not what spending
cuts would do. Kill the alcohol farm subsidy. Tax hedge fund managers at
wage level not capitol gains level. Kill the cotton subsidy, kill a lot
of the water subsidy. Where a farmer can pay $10 an acre foot and resell
it to towns at $1000. Spending cuts are what are needed. There are not
enough tax revenues available to rescue us.

For the bits I get, congress is having a hard time getting Obama to cut
$2 trillion in 10 years. Obama's idea is let it be the next presidents
issue. The man has destroyed USA with debt.

Fact is if DC can't do 1.6 trillion/year cuts starting right now, I will
take the liquidation/tax bath on my last US account that I have and just
exit US altogether. There is already signs of a small currency run
going, USD is down in value again this week.

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Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future.
And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags...