Hi, again :{))


Haven't you learned how to clip the stuff you're not responding to???

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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Clip of my prior entirety, your comments, and my reply...

Was/is Cecil, of the thousands of "notices" herein, your brother? I seem
to recall a tale from Aragorn recounting something (without names) of
that sort during an attempted dinghy sale. From that tale and description
of Cut the Mustard, as compared to your recent postings, I'd say you're
back on the water (sometimes - do you live aboard?) and having a great
time, a very good thing.

(clip of your response to that question, but noting that you didn't respond
to the question of your living situation)


As for the foam, it was two-part urethane foam that creates kazillions of
tiny bubbles that don't waterlog when mixed. Closed-cell, they call it.

(more clippage, of description of a Coronado 27 construction)

pretty much
worthless for storage but for flotation foam they are ideal. I used a 2"
hole saw to access all these dead spaces and poured the mixed two-part
foam into them. One must be careful as the foam expands quickly 15 times
poured volume and it can create considerable pressure if the space is not
adequately vented. But, I got the knack of it and poured small batches
until the dead spaces were filled to the top. Now my boat is cooler in the
summer and warmer in the winter and doesn't sweat inside in the cold. It
also has about 2,400 lbs of positive flotation which it didn't have to
begin with. The hull is also stronger than it ever was to begin with. It
used to oil can a bit forward when pounding into a steep sea or chop.
Since I poured the foam, it doesn't oil can at all. Nice and quiet and
stiff.

I'm not surprised. However, if you're expecting that to float your boat,
unless it weighs less than that, you're out of luck.

However, I appreciate the insulation and stiffening you accomplished. Our
fine yacht has had, in the past, much of the interior (where there used to
be the ubiquitous cane-look vinyl over the interior of the hull) laid up
with 16"OC 1" radius omega-shaped stiffeners tabbed to the hull,
interspersed with 1/2" neoprene foam, surfaced (using the omegas for screw
mounts) with oak strips.

It makes it stiffer, quieter, and better insulated, not to mention dresses
up what used to be pretty awful looking-after-30-years vinyl .

Why did you put 13" of foam on top and only 6" on the bottom of your
freezer? Should have done it the other way around as most of the cold will
tend to go out the bottom, not the top??

Well, if I stood the boat on its head, it would work out that way. However,
my boat, like all the others I've ever seen, expands outward from the keel,
not the other way around. Thus, the bottom is less wide than the top. I
built the box in a rectangle for more efficiency - so the exterior (all 5
other sides, of course, being inside the living space) insulation just
worked out that way :{))


If we share an anchorage some day, please make sure to anchor downwind of
me so I don't have to smell the 24/7 generator exhaust you probably need
for

Heh. Once again you conveniently forget all the solar and wind we have.
Our Honda 2000 gets only occasional use, such as when it's overcast and
still, and then, just to top up our 880 (not counting the start and windlass
batteries)AH bank, which has plenty of staying power for our systems, all of
which are extremely green (read, low draw).

all your myriad systems. But, do run them so I can visit and sample the
quality of your cold beer. LOL. I recall one time in the Bahamas where
some

Indeed. Our reefer is set for 32 (2° hysteresis), and my gatorade, next to
the spillover wall and in front of the fan, sometimes freezes - but the beer
and coke, not so much, just icy cold.

fellow on a 60-foot Beneteau was jealous because my beer was colder than
his. Mine had ice crystals form in the bottle when opened whereas his
didn't. At that time I had the sole lined with cases of beer. I had to
stoop to walk around but it wasn't all that long before I drank it all up
and could stand straight again. Beer in the Bahamas is just TOO EXPENSIVE
so a prudent sailor carries enough to meet his daily requirements for the
duration of the stay.

No kidding. 24s of even the island beer are mid-to-high $30s, and the US
brands are more than $2 a can in case lots.

We use our bathtub for the coke and beer supplies - about 4-5 months' worth
at our rate of consumption.

Coke's abominably priced in the Bahamas, too, but, if one stays out for
years at a time as we do, sometimes it's going to just have to be that we
pay the price!


Wilbur Hubbard


L8R

Skip, about to put on the last bit of fairing on the first round on the port
side...


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