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On May 30, 1:58*pm, John H wrote:
On Mon, 30 May 2011 09:38:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On May 30, 10:25*am, John H wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2011 18:41:37 -0700 (PDT), TopBassDog wrote:
On May 29, 4:26*pm, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 May 2011 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS_Manassas

Seeing I've had several ancestors who fought in the civil war, I'm
always intrigued with the effectiveness ( good or bad) of primitive
war machinery especially the iron clad vessels.

The "Rams" were amazing creations. It seem the Manassas especially
stands out - 143 ft. long and 33 ft. wide and carrying a cannon that
could hurl a 62 lb. shot not counting the 40 ft. iron spike to poke
holes in the hulls of the wooden ships...

I can't imagine being in a semi-submersible with little ventilation, a
cannon, a steam engine and no sound proofing as cannon balls violently
hitting the deck. I'd think that if the percussion (even from within)
didn't get you, the heat would. Even bracing for the ram could be
quite injurious, I'd think. All in all, I'm sure the whole crew was
eventually deaf.

Interesting portion of the Wiki link: "Manassas then ran into
murderous fire from the whole line of the Union fleet. She then
charged USS Mississippi and delivered a long glancing blow on her
hull, firing her only gun as she rammed. " *Amazingly it survived only
to run aground and get pounded to it's death.

Another good article that has some layouts of the hull ....

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/s...r/manassas.htm

Tim, you may enjoy these, if you can stand a little fiction:

http://historicnavalfiction.com/inde...le-index/g/655

http://historicnavalfiction.com/inde...le-index/t/656

looks interesting, John. I'll see what's available on Amazon etc.
Thanks!

Hell, don't buy 'em! That's why God created libraries!

John, those books look cool. I'll be looking for them too. But one
disappointment I have is that the only public library we have is 10 mi
away, and you have to live in the town to use it with any
effectiveness. So I'll be scouting on amazon or ebay too.

Now If I could find the time to read them.....

OK, here's an idea that'll save you time. You order them on Amazon and have them sent to me. I'll
read them and tell you the ending. That'll save you a *bunch* of time!- Hide quoted text -

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You cheap #$#%$@^
With all the time & money Tim is saving you...the least you could do
is buy the book he likes and ship it to him.
Even better... an audio cassette so he can listen while working on
your never ending problems.

Let's see how not "cheap" you are, coward. Buy and ship me some
books.... Now go back to your new place with your buddies Harry and
slammer.