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On Mon, 16 May 2011 23:45:55 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2011 18:01:59 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Mon, 16 May 2011 00:14:16 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 16:07:44 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Sun, 15 May 2011 14:48:28 -0400, wrote:

and yet the GOP got 70% of wall street money when the DEMS started to
regulate wall street. and they got a pay off. the GOP is fighting any
regulation at all.

I guess 68 is close to 70 but the point is that it was the gop going
off the reservation, fighting the bailout, so they needed the bribes.
The dems were solidly in the bag.

so it's OK when the GOP gets bribed to do wall street's bidding

but when the dems tell wall street to shove it, that proves they'e
doing what wall street wants

uh....OK...

I do not see the Dems telling anyone to shove it. They are the same to
me when it comes to Wall Street. You saw where the money went in 08.

Obama is doing exactly what the GOP would do and so did Clinton. That
is why the big money didn't take a serious swing at either of them.
Come on. MCain/Palin? Dole/Kemp?
That is a party that didn't want it very bad.

Really? Exactly the same? Wow. That's shockingly narrow-minded and
total BS.

I am not running from anything. There were plenty of neocon democrats
who were eager to have a war with Iraq.
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how many were president?

oh. zero.

Congress has to pay for those wars and there are some war resolutions
I can go look up if you really need the votes.

and how many would have done so if bush hadn't LIED??

Clinton, Schumer and Lieberman were right behind him cheering him on.
You have plenty of neocons on your side.

Total BS.

They were the same ones who
criticized GHWB for not chasing the Iraqis all the way to Baghdad in
1991. These are the ones who are backed by AIPAC and have never seen a
war against Muslims that they didn't like.

and how many were president?

oh. zero.

how many were commander in chief?

zero.

See above.

you bet

Yeah the technical detain is OBL was in Pakistan and it was not a
150,000 man army that got him., It was a small team of special ops
people. That is what we should have been doing all along.

and obama has been moving in that direction as well, which is why the
number of these operations has increased, along with increased drone
strikes. but you dont just cut and run

How many GIs have to die before you decide it is a waste of capital.

how many new yorkers have to die before you decide it wasnt?

You are waging a war on people who had nothing to do with it.
Bin Laden was in Afghanistan but he left almost 10 years ago.
As far as we know Karzai was covering for him too and we are backing
Karzai.

So, you're claiming the Taliban didn't harbor OBL and was never
involved in terrorism... wow.

You sound like Nixon now. Do we want "Peace with Honor"?
That cost us about 30,000 guys and we still lost.

gee. i just missed being drafted for vietnam. i got over vietnam
syndrome

you havent

Pity. The people who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
and yet if we dont stablize afghanistan, the taliban will return, they
will set up operations with al qaida and we'll have pakistin and
afghanistan to deal with

The taliban is going to return. We have no way to stop them.

sure we do. we set up a dictatorship that's a ruthless killer. it's
been done before

how much luck did al qaida have in iraq?

none.

So now you are saying you like brutal dictatorships? Nice.
Maybe we should have backed Mubarak and we should be backing Qdaffy.
I guess we should have dusted off Saddam, made him promise to be good
and put him back in the palace.

No, we should have attacked him for being absolutely no threat to us
or our allies.

... except he was giving the family of any suicide bomber who
attacked Israel $25,000

Except that Israel was doing just fine. Feel free to keep justifying a
war of choice and lying to the American people (and the world).

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9-11. Most of them still have never
even heard of it.

sure they did. in fact, you lost all credibility when you made that
statement

OBL was living in kabul on 9/11. when mullah omar was ordered by the
US to turn over OBL, he refused, saying OBL was a guest in afghanist

so your statement is wrong. and it's like saying the japanese had no
responsibility for hte attack on pearl harbor

That is total bull****. The japs were flying the planes that attacked
Pear Harbor. There were ZERO Taliban guys on the planes on 9-11, nor
were they really involved in the plot at all. To use your logic, we
should declare war on Pakistan today

now let's see

OBL was living in afghanistan

he planned the attack from there with his conspirators

you DO know that, if you are engaged in a conspiracy you are as guilty
if you PLAN it as those who carry it out....that's the law.

so you're an appeaser. you're the only moron ive seen who loves the
taliban
The Taliban is in Pakistan too, as was OBL. Do you want to attack them
too?

Sounds like you do. Are you even aware of the nuanced situation?
Sounds like you aren't.

If your excuse for invading Afghanistan was just that they sheltered
OBL, what do you have to say about Pakistan?

mullah omar was the HEAD Of the taliban. and there are no nukes in
afghanistan. so there's NO eivdence the HEAD Of govt in pakistan knew
ANYTHING about OBL. the ISI certainly did, but this just means we have
to be at war with pakistan in a different way.

So you think the only reason we attacked Afghanistan is because they
don't have any nukes.

that's a pretty good start.

Killing taliban is like stepping on ants. It may make you feel like
you are doing something but you are at war with their birth rate.
Some day soon the population is going to throw Karzai out and they
will blame us for letting him stay there so long ... just like the
Egyptians

depends. if karzai is content to kill taliban and they are willing to
try and kill him, then we have a stand off. which is a win for us. as
long as we deny afghanistan to the taliban, we win.

Karzai is supporting theTaliban.That dog don't hunt.

ROFLMAO!! they're trying to kill him and he's supporting them?

uh...OK..

so far all you've told us is what great guys the taliban are and how
OBL was innocent

any other delusions you got?

Karzai is for anyone who is paying him. If that is Taliban, he is
Taliban