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On Sun, 15 May 2011 01:29:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 23:56:39 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 23:40:18 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 21:32:43 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Sat, 14 May 2011 17:14:09 -0400, wrote:



If you are a big business, Wall Street, insurance company, medical
conglomerate, neocon war mongering kind of republican you have to
love Obama. So far he is GW Bush with a tan. (the 5th Bush Brother)

let's see...

obama proposed a single payer system that would put the insurance
companies out of business

Yet he brags about a system that did little but bring another 40
million customers to the same insurance companies that you hate at the
point of a government gun

uh wrong

1. he gives a subsidy to low income earners to buy insurance
2. he removes the policy of excluding pre existing conditions

if he'd had his way our healthcare system would be more efficient. but
folks like you objected because it didnt make the rich richer


Uh what part of what I said was wrong. Where did those 40 million
have to go? To the same insurance companies who still really have no
limits to what they charge. All we did was put the government in the
position of having to borrow money to pay for it.

we were already borrowing the money. or they were. someone was paying.
this delusion on the part of the right that healthcare is free is
another of your urban myths

This is a "mandate", in other words the government makes you go to
those insurance companies.

we already have mandates. i have no kids. but i have to pay higher
taxes than those who do. that's a mandate.

this is another urban myth of the right. you guys build your entire
ideology on myths



. Exactly ZERO republicans voted for that
bill or had anything to do with writing it. It was democrats in the
senate that killed single payer.

lotsa right wing democrats

Then look inside your party. That is my point

the fact that the right has turned america into a plutocracy where
only the rich have a voice is something that is finally dawning even
on the myth loving right wing




obama proposed strong regulations on wall street

Yet the democratic senate came up with a fin reg bill that left most
of the abuses like too big to fail in place. Maybe it was because they
took more money from Wall Street than the republicans did.

actually the dems didnt. in the last election, 80% of wall street
money went to the GOP

Cite that.
I see this
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=F07

sorry. part of your myth making is that you dont pay attention to the
news

http://gothamist.com/2010/02/08/wall...ates_to_re.php
http://mydd.com/2010/2/24/wall-streee




you gotta keep up with the news if you're gonna argue facts

oh. i forgot. you're right wing you dont do facts

You seem to be the one who pulls numbers out of your ass.

go ahead. read the news, right winger. then whimper away to lick your
wounds

if you were an adult and had the facts at your fingertips you'd hunt
right wingers with dogs and pitchforks

the fact is the right thinks everything is OK with america because the
wealthy are getting richer and power is concentrating in the hands of
a few

progressives look at the EVIDENCE and see LACK of opportunity in a
system increasing dominated by a small class of people and want to
RESTORE american opportunity.

that's why the right hates teh middle class, unions and progressives.
WE want to RESTORE american greatness.

YOU are the agents of the status quo.



and the GOP fought the regulations against wall street. in fact the
GOP fought ANY regulations.

The Democrats had a filibuster proof senate, the house and the White
House. Why didn't they do something?
Oh it was YOUR right wing democrats.

well no they didnt. in fact the GOP racked up MORE filibusters and
threats than in any time in our nation's history.

again your belief in myth is what makes you right wing

http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/03/02...f-filibusters/




obama is getting us out of iraq

On the Bush schedule ... if he can actually pull it off. I will
believe it when I see it.

HAHAHA uh bush didnt HAVE a schedule. guess you just pulled THAT one
out of your....ahem...

Maybe you were in a cave but there was a schedule, the same one we are
currently on..

uh no. sorry. more mythology. we will leave. obama said, when it's
PRUDENT to do so

and iraq? a TRILLION spent there by the liar bush. 4400 US troops

between bush's WARS and his SPENDING and his TAX CUTS for the RICH HE
bankrupted us, NOT the black guy

sorry, right winger. the facts destroy your belief in MYTH


He doubled down in Afghanistan

gee. wonder why that was

now let's see...how many islamists terrorirsts in iraq?

oh. zero

Having nothing to do with the double down in Afghanistan. There were
less than 150 terrorist suspects in Afghanistan and we sent 150,000
guys in after them.

HAHAHAHA this guy thinks that ONLY al qaida are terrorists!!

the FACT is the HAQQANI NETWORK of the PAKISTAN TALIBAN maintains
CLOSE relationships with the AFGHAN taliban AND with AL QAIDA

****, you dont even know who the terrorists are!

there are LOTS of taliban groups. you're just uneducated. no wonder
you're right wing!


bush never got close

and you're just not bright enough to understand why we're fighting the
taliban

you're just not very bright at all


Insults do not enhance the credibility of your argument.

The fact is there are more Taliban now than there were in 2002 but the
vast majority of them have no interest in attacking the US, they just
want us out of their country, just like they wanted the Soviets out.
We somehow feel the need and the right to impose our culture on them
and they don't like it.

so the right hates obama so much they believe our ENEMIES

I WAS IN NY after 9/11 with the USCG. i saw what they did. i saw what
the TALIBAN and their allies, al qaida did

mayby you right wingers, with your fundamentalist devotion to
increasing the power of the rich will ally yourselves with our enemies

but i never, never, will.

either the taliban agree NEVER to ally with al qaida and other enemies
again, or we destroy them

YOU want to appease them

tell it to czechoslovakia

You say the right has done all this. Look at the facts. In the last
forty years, most of the time the democrats have had control of at least
two of the three (congress, senate, oval office), and sometimes all
three, the "right" has never had that. I do clearly remember Pelosi
though calling herself the leader of the "do nothing congress" making
sure that even though the right had been voted in, their hands were tied
with investigations and other bull****...

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