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On Fri, 06 May 2011 06:22:25 -0400, Harryk
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I_am_Tosk wrote:
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On 05/05/2011 1:00 PM, Harryk wrote:
John H wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2011 14:04:53 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:57:05 -0400,
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I am happy that Obama has repealed the flawed Carter policy of not
targeting people for assassination.
Maybe some day we can return to the Eisenhower policy of shaping civil
war outcomes using covert means and without sending in a 150,000
troops.

It was certainly clear that we could have taken OBL alive but they
made the right choice and blew his head off on site.

Plume, before you protest that, are you really saying a SEAL could
not have wrestled a sickly, 54 year old, unarmed man to the ground if
he wanted to? They saw him, they shot him end of story.
I prefer to deal with what we know...or were told. We were told Osama
was given an opportunity to surrender and live or go out in a blaze of
what he probably assumed was glory. We were told he chose the latter.

That's no different than the choices the police in this country offer
dangerous fugitives who they have cornered or who respond by opening
fire. It usually is referred to as "Death by Cop."

Assuming that was the case, I don't have a problem with the outcome. A
trial would have been long and messy, but it is our way to try
criminals
and prove their guilt in a court of law. To dispose of criminals
otherwise brings us down to the level of the terrorists.
The reports coming back from the SEALs is that there was only one
armed man there, who they shot right away. It is clear they wanted to
kill OBL. I think that was a wise choice.
Very. But it was not in keeping with the liberal interpretation of
'American values'.
The "conservative interpretation" of American values is to shoot, no
matter what? That's the sort of stupidity that got us into Iraq.

Mind you, I don't oppose the shooting of bin Laden, assuming he was
given a chance to surrender alive and turned it down.
If it were you son looking Osama in the eye, and Osama pull a hand into
hidden view --

Would you want your son to chance it that Osama wasn't going for a
grenade, bomb or firearm?

The way they are trained, they could have taken him alive.. Period. It
was a hit, pure and simple. There is no way they were gonna' let Osama
tell the world about the co-operation he was getting from all the
countries involved...

I find it humorous that Canuck and Snotty, two of the three most
ignorant conspiracy theorists on rec.boats, in this and in other posts,
have yet more conspiracies.

Since I wasn't in the room and videos haven't been shown, I don't know
what happened immediately before Osama was shot dead. My *hope* was that
he was indeed first given an opportunity to surrender. As I have stated
previously, it wouldn't bother me to learn he was shot while resisting
capture/arrest.

NBC has an unnamed white house official calling this a kill mission. I
think it is clear they were not looking for a prisoner.

Earlier today Savannah Guthrie quoted an unnamed White House official
commenting on the rising criticism of how bin Laden was killed, who
said "they weren?t raiding a girl scout troop looking for overdue
library books. They were on a kill mission for Osama bin Laden."

I'm sure they got more from the computers they took than anything OBL
would tell them, no matter how much water they splashed in his face.

The way these guys are trained they could have taken him alive, period.
Harry and the rest of the hypocrites here just can't admit it was a kill
mission, it doesn't fit their agenda... I still think it would have been
better to "splash him in the face" a few times. I am sure there was
stuff in his head that was not on disk. Most likely the names of the US,
UN, and Pakistani contacts that were protecting him there...

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