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Default OT; Green is not always good.

On 28/04/2011 12:19 PM, Harryk wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 28/04/2011 6:53 AM, Harryk wrote:
I'm putting together a new server and was about to order four 2-terabyte
Western Digital "Green" enterprise hard drives for it.

I've never really thought about why these drives are called "green,"
other than they are supposed to use less power than "non-green" drives.
Obviously, they do this by shutting the drive down when it isn't being
accessed.

Apparently, though, when you use "green" drives in a server, you end up
with a dramatically high Load/UnLoad Cycle Count, and this can lead to
premature ejac-, er, drive failure.

There is a way to turn off the "green" on the WD drives, by adjusting
the drive's idle timer to lower the Load/Unload cycle rate, but it is a
pain in the ass, involving preparing a DOS boot disk, installing the
drive in a computer, and running a program. Not difficult, but I don't
have a "Windoze" computer anymore that can boot up into DOS. :)

I'm guessing the "green" drives of other vendors will behave similarly.

Sheesh, I never learned any of this stuff in my college English classes.
Even an O.F. like me is not too old to learn.


Failure of drives is exclusive to the (lack of) quality of the drives.
How much power they use is not a factor. If anything, lower power, less
heat and slower access times for less vibration should actually be
better.

I would use Seagate drives. And forget DOS/MS products. Use Linux.
Ubuntu or Fedora. No way to turn off green, they run slower, consume
less juice by design.

Use HW RAID on the boot disks if the mobo supports it.



Oh, just for your edification, I just ordered four Seagate Constellation
ES 2 TB 7200RPM SATA 3Gb/s 64 MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Hard Drives,
Model # ST32000644NS.

The new server runs under LINUX, I believe. The company selling them has
a nice interface for it. As for RAID, I'm still deciding what flavor to
use. The vendor has something called Synology Hybrid RAID, about which I
have just started to read. Crikey, it is dull stuff.


Agreed it is dull. I don't putz with the stuff much any more favoring
COTS. Used to. Built my first x86 computer, a 4.7Mhz 8088 from chips...
But the first one I made was an 8080 based.

Isn't like the old days where you would thumb in the boot strap code,
which loaded the paper tape, which got the floppy to get to the hard
drive of a whopping 2.5MB of storage. (Pre-1980 mini, PDP type junk)

Always said with a snark at the time, that I would retire when
processors were 4GHz, 4GB Hard drive, 4GB of RAM.... A quad-core @
2.53GHz qualifies and ended up working longer. Stuff is faster and
cheaper than ever before except for Microsoft garbage-ware.

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