On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 10:58:50 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce in Bangkok" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:40:45 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
news:w8qdna8mV7lneSzQnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@earthlink .com...
It's NOT WATER!

It may have been water at one time, but it's not anymore.

That's the point everybody has been trying to make here.

Since it's not water, it doesn't BEHAVE like water...




It is chemical IN SOLUTION WITH water. What goes into solution can
evaporate
out of solution. What don't you and the other morons understand about
something this simple?

Wilbur Hubbard



Willie-boy, you are getting all confused. You are talking about a
mechanical mixture and it is a chemical mixture and a chemical
mixture, or solution, can't be separated.



Wrong! The darkish osmotic solution is no different in principle than sea
water which is also a solution. The water can be diffused and evaporated out
of salt water leaving various salts in crystal form along with trace
metallic elements, organics, etc.

In the same way, the water can be diffused and evaporated out of the
darkish, osmotic liquid that contains all sorts of chemicals like styrene,
MEKP, polyester resin, etc. Even that so-called authoritative article you
morons consider your Bible demonstrates this to be fact in that the droplets
of thinner chemical/water solution on the plate get thicker as they dry and
as the atmosphere become more humid they then absorb some water and get
thinner again. In the sun and a less humid atmosphere they get thicker and
harder. Duh! Open your mind, or the mush that passes for it!

You can't have it both ways, Lubber! My argument that the spraying the hull
with water is mostly ineffective in ridding the laminate of the trapped
moisture in the osmotic solution stands based upon the facts as stated. The
sprayed water simply cannot wash out the osmotic solution trapped inside the
laminate raising blisters (with the exception of areas that are cracked or
holed and we all know that is NOT everywhere). The only way to accomplish
this washing away by spraying would be to drill millions of small holes into
the laminate in the entire bottom so the trapped osmotic solution would have
egress so the sprayed water could then was it away.

As it stands, from a realistic physical standpoint, water sprayed on the
outside of the hull has as much chance of washing out the trapped osmotic
solution as your taking a shower and expecting it wash out your
blood/alcohol solution. LOL!

Wilbur Hubbard

Willie-boy I'm sick of trying to tell the pig's ear how to be a silk
purse.

Here is three more sites that discuss osmosis in addition to the
Pascoe site I've already given you.

A study of the causes of osmosis in boats by Thomas Rockett, Ph.D. and
Vincent Rose, Ph.D., at the University of Rhode Island, and was partly
funded by the US Coastguard Service.
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc...f&AD=ADA206508

From the September 1999 TELLTALE Page 3:
http://nsc.ca/nsc_library/techtalk/osmosis.htm
which reports "The molecular structure of `this new mixture' changes
(thickens), making it impossible for it to permeate outward through
the gelcoat."


and Osmosis and Blistering in yacht Hulls, by
http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/osmosis.htm
which says in part "The water molecules can then have a chemical
reaction with these substances, forming larger molecules of a new
chemical, often acidic - which unlike the original small water
molecules, cannot carry on passing through the GRP."


If you care to read and can understand any of this information then we
might continue the discussion of osmosis. On the other hand if you
continue to insist that your outdated (you will note that one of the
references was from 1999 which makes your information really old)
information is current then there is little sense in trying to
persuade you that the sun does not orbit the earth.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)