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On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 23:24:29 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:55:40 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:23:00 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:52:20 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:22:52 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:59:21 -0700, wrote:

A second home... one of which is a gas hog. Wow... where I come from,
and where most people come from, they only have one home, and if
they're lucky they can make the mortgage payments.

Anyone living from paycheck to paycheck is not truly middle class.

Middle class is not just about money. It's more about values,
managing what you have, and saving/investing for the future.

Most people, the vast majority of people who live paycheck to paycheck
are absolutely middle class no matter what "your" definition might be.

Your "values" seem to be you've got yours, so screw everyone else.
Most people who consider themselves middle class manage what they have
and try an invest in the future. These days many of them don't succeed
and are being throw under the bus by the right wing.

More socialist BS from my favorite parrot. Please define middle class
for us. Hint: Aspiring to middle class does not count.

How about you get off your high horse. It doesn't become you. How
about those falling out of their homes? How about those people who now
have to choose between paying their bills, buying their meds, or
feeding their children. You don't really care do you.

Anyone with a net worth of zero or some negative number might be the
salt of the earth but they are clearly not middle class unless you
want to call your Mexican landscaper middle class.

Which has nothing to do with the subject of Wayne supposing he isn't
well beyond the typical middle class person. He might not be rich by a
billionaire's view, but he certainly isn't scraping to keep his house
and his fine yacht.

In reality he probably does have a positive net worth on his $12 an
hour salary. Anglos should learn something from our latino residents.

Maybe that is the problem. We have decided people's wealth is measured
by their credit line and not what they actually own. You brag about
how much money you make, are you saying you can't afford 2
refrigerators? Weren't you talking about buying a quarter of a million
dollar boat a while ago?

Maybe you just hate people who aren't as smart as you? I don't think
I've ever heard anyone brag about their modest home.

Please show me where I ever said I considered myself "middle class"
regarding income. I've never "bragged" about anything. That's just
lying on your part. Actually, the boat we're now contemplating is a
bit more than that, but it's clear that your only purpose is to win
some imaginary point rather than have a discussion about actual facts.