On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:51:44 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:03:55 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:01:45 -0400, Gene wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:39:41 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:24:42 -0400, Gene wrote:

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:30:42 -0400, John H
wrote:

A good explanation. This was passed on to my wife by her doctor.


At least it came from a disinterested third party! Or not........

Either way, it makes good sense.

NO... IT DOESN'T!

When you have to write a persuasive article using the following, you
are full of ****:

*The magician distracts the audience.....

*Democrats and President Obama should make David Copperfield
proud.....

*Is the Congressional Budget Office to be believed?

*And for the ultimate distraction, Mr. Obama paraded a group of
“doctors”.....

*Government pay medicine -- under any name you give it -- is immoral
for patients/citizens, and for physicians.

*No citizen would consider it moral to put a gun to his neighbor’s
head......

*The worst moral examples of course were the German doctors who were
forced to cooperate in death camp selections.

Lee Hieb is an Orthopaedic Surgeon, in solo private practice. Her
first-hand experience in medicine began in the 1950s, when she
accompanied her father on his housecalls in Iowa....

And I wonder what her father would think of her obscenely high fees
and a practice that is so focused on maximizing income, that
housecalls are not EVEN on the radar....?

You've found fault with the way she presented herself, not the facts of the article. And, you have
to admit there was a hell of a lot of deception going on.

We agree, there was deception... and it was all hers.... she didn't
cite one factual, quantifiable, supported statement... she played on
people's fears. If she had any proof... any real argument, she never
stated it... it was all about fear, uncertainty, and doubt.

In fact, she even made the point that it wasn't about facts, it was
about fearing some nebulous thing she characterizes as "government pay
medicine," whatever you call it.

John, really, there is a meaningful dialog to be had about this
subject, but this article is a textbook example of lies, deceptions,
and misinformation... our parents would (rightfully) have called this
Yellow Journalism.... would you have accepted this paper from one of
you students? No citations? No facts? No thesis? No logical
development? No conclusion? I think not..... this isn't even a proper
4th grade paper.... this is plain and outright deception .... nothing
but fear mongering.... Certainly not worthy of posting....

Fear is the touchstone for the right wing. You're shocked by this?