Frogwatch wrote:
On Apr 2, 1:27 pm, wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says...
On 4/2/2011 10:23 AM, Harryk wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says...
On 4/2/2011 8:58 AM, Harryk wrote:
John H wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 21:35:46 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:
No, I've never sailed one but I sorta like the concept. Part of why I
like it is just cuz it annoys some people who deserve to be annoyed.
However, I own more boats than I need (I am down to only 8 at last
count) so one that covers the same purpose of two might be good. I
have a sailboat for cruising and I do not expect good sailing
performance while cruising except downwind and a bathtub with a towel
for a sail will go well downwind. Sailing upwind for any length of
time is impressive for an hour or so but not a great way to be comfy,
I'll use the engine (with sails as an anti-roll) then and if I had a
MAc26 would use her motor.
I own a 20' power boat specifically for exploring shallow water where
all the interesting things are and the Mac26 would fit this very
well.
I don't need her to be a great powerboat as even 15 kts seems like
warpspeed to a sailor who is used to 5 kts.
My point is that a MAc26 not being either a "Good sailboat" or a
"Good
Powerboat" has no meaning at all to me as I simply do not need either
a good powerboat or a good sailboat. I do have need of a trailerable
extreme shoal draft boat that is capable of more than 5 kts o get
somewhere in a hurry if necessary but can be sailed at a more
normal 5
kts most of the time. I think that most people who buy Mac26s think
the same thing.
So the Mac26 is spartan. My S2 is even more spartan. If I was not so
used to my current boat and if I did not want to go really far afield
in cruising, I'd buy a Mac26.
There are folks in this world who think the only decent boat is
*their* boat,
even when they don't have one. And, as they have nothing better to do,
they
denigrate everyone else's boat.
In the case in question we had a drunk operator, with a grossly
overloaded and
grossly under-ballasted boat that capsized. Therefore, according to
our resident
*expert* it's the boat's fault.
WAFDS!
What the **** do you know about boats, Herring? Answer: next to
nothing.
For someone who has been around boats all his life you know surprisingly
little. You are not qualified to judge John Herring on his knowledge.
Seriously. Harry was just trying to be heard again. All he has to add is
insults so that's what we get....
What's really funny is that you mooks don't realize how inherently
unstable that boat is with its daggerboard/centerboard up. Have any of
you looked at the hullform? Did you understand what you were seeing? The
boat's like an oversized canoe in powerboat mode.
Morons.
Any boater or potential boater should be cautioned that Harry
Krause/Paul/A real boater, etc. has little or no boating knowledge of
any significance. He has demonstrated over and over that he is a klutz
when it comes to boat operation, navigating, line handling, and boat
upkeep/and maintenance. At best, he is a pompous, blowhard, ass, much
like his counterpart on rec.boats.cruising, Wilbur Hubbard and his many
sock puppets
That should be posted at least once a day in case someone comes here for
boat related information...
Apparently you mooks missed the post from w'hine in which he had the
same conclusions as I did, that the boat in question is not stable when
motoring with the daggerboard/centerboard up.

I ought to post that photo of your rowboat, Snotty. You know the
one...with the crooked paint lines and the paint flaking off the inside
of the hull because (a) you were drunk when you painted the rowboat and
(b) you used out of date housepaint from Home Depot's "almost free" aisle.

The Mac26X has the same shape as most small sailboats using a
daggerboard but its water ballast gives it more stability. There is
nothing unusual about its shape for a sailboat. Initially it is said
to be tender but it hardens up when it reaches 10 degrees meaning the
hull is flattish on bottom with some widening on the sides.
If one was truly paranoid, he could put floats like fenders along the
toerail. This would result in a huge increase in stability when heel
reached about 35 degrees but might make her stable upside down.
I am sure her designer optimized the amount of hull flare for
stability.


How does the boat plane under motor power with the daggerboard down and
the ballast tanks full of water? It is, after all, while it is under
power that it is tender.