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Harryk

I_am_Tosk wrote:
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In articleoq6dnQ98EdQevw_QnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 06:09:33 -0400,
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:05:55 -0400,
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:32:51 -0400,
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 23:03:24 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 01:49:47 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 10:37:33 -0700, wrote:

It is a strange comment from a person who believes in the unions and
their policy of paying the oldest and longest serving employees the
most, regardless of performance.
Who believes that? I don't think you'll find anyone who does.
School teachers.
Nonsense. They believe performance does matter, and they're sick of
teaching to tests that don't teach kids anything useful except maybe
how to take tests.
Taking tests is a very important skill but these teachers do not want
their salary tied to any measure of performance. They want to be paid
by credentials and time in grade.
Make that sound reasonable to me..
A totally out of touch teacher with 20 years on the job and a PhD, who
gets horrible results, makes 3 times as much as a new teacher who
connects with the kids and really gets something done in the
classroom. That is ridiculous.
Too many variables in your argument. You're making assumptions the kids
in each class are pretty much the same kids, with the same home life.
When I was in public school, the older, more experienced teachers were
by far the better teachers.
Maybe but I had a terrible crush on Mr. Hansen in 8th grade. He was
one of the younger ones. Of course, I can't remember a single thing he
said.
Most of my public school teachers made really strong, positive
impressions on me. In all those years, though, there was only one young
woman I considered cute.

In those days, just after Franklin "discovered" electricity, the
teachers did not have to take the amount of b.s. dished up to them today.
Ah yeah, the 50s when teachers could smoke in class and slap the
students. Those were the days. We did seem to learn more and classroom
discipline was a whole lot better. They still measured our progress on
how we did on those evil tests. In fact there was one every Friday.
Hmmm. I don't recall teachers smoking in class or on school grounds, nor
do I recall students being slapped. Of course we had tests, and lots of
them.
The teachers all could smoke in the teacher's lounge and a few
extended that to the classroom. Nobody ever said a word.
My 8th grade social studies (AKA Core) used to bum a smoke off of our
"Jethro" student, a kid from West Virginia who was about 18. They
would both spark up right there in class. The teacher was only about
23-24.

Actually that may have been the best class I had as far as learning
anything. The algebra teacher was some old crone who just droned on
and on with virtually zero interaction with the class. I think about a
third of the class was really not getting the material. I know it
baffled me and in summer school it seemed easy. The teacher (in the
private school) actually made some effort to help us understand
instead of just making it a lecture.

That was my last year in Public school.

I was in public school all the way, K-12. There were plenty of "prep"
and parochial schools in New Haven and in Connecticut, of course. Some
of the "snooty" kids went to the fancier prep high schools.

I only recall one bad teacher, and that was in junior high school. A
match teacher, a young one, and too much the smart aleck.

I built a cloud chamber for my seventh grade science project. Damned
thing worked, too. Consisted of a metal cooking tray, painted flat
black, on which sat a one gallon cider jug with the top and bottom cut
off to make a cylinder. There was a copper band (maybe two) around the
inside of the jug. A spark coil from a Model A Ford was connected to the
copper, and the spark coil was connected to a battery. Put a radium
clock hand on the cooking tray (which sat on a slab of dry ice), turn
off the lights, shine a projector into the glass, and you could clearly
see the trails given off by the radium on the clock hand.
And it turns into a lie about Harry......

Next he developed the 100 mile per gallon carb, and that was on his way
to curing cancer!!! LOL!

Well, some of us were and are smart and some of us were and are not
smart. I'm in the former group and you're in the latter. If you can
think of why my description of a simple cloud chamber would not work,
you just go ahead and post your reasons. Otherwise, you should stick to
what you know...stacking crates in a warehouse, shoveling **** out of a
barn, and living vicariously through the dangerous sport in which you
have shoved your daughter.