On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:20:48 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:19:55 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:38:06 -0700, Mark Borgerson
wrote:

However, part of the problem in that conversion is that you can
get a 36' sailboat in decent condition for about half the cost
of a 36' trawler.

Considering that the trawler probably has more than twice as much
livable space and a lot more comfortable, not such a bad deal. :-)




It's a bad deal for the environment as marine diesel engines are notorious
for the huge amounts of air pollution they spew. And, they drip oil and
fuel
and foul the bilges which foul bilge water and fuel dregs are then pumped
into the water.

I never could understand how anybody in their right mind could be
justified
in thinking that their fun takes precedence over folks who wish to breathe
clean air. It's such a me me me, selfish attitude. It reeks of elitism and
hypocrisy.

Really, it's no different than Al Gore flying all over the glove in his
private jet then complaining about how much pollution and CO2 other people
are responsible for.

Yah, right!


Wilbur Hubbard


I don't either... all that smell.. yuk!


Motor-head boaters seem to become immune to their own noise and air
pollution. I guess they smell the exhaust fumes and hear the cacophony so
often and so long that their sense of smell and their hearing modifies so
they can't smell or hear it anymore.

Why else would some of them be so rude as to arrive in an anchorage and
anchor UPWIND of everybody and then run a smelly diesel generator all day
and all night just so they can have plenty of electricity for all the
household crap they have on board. I just wish people like that would STAY
home. What's the use of sailing when you float the farm, so to speak? You
ruin the experience for most of the other travelers and are too selfish to
understand what you're doing?

I'm hoping that if (when?) we work out the details, you wouldn't let
that happen to us!

Take an example a lubber might understand. A lubber goes to a campground in
a State Park and sets up his little tent in the woods and hopes to have a
good time cooking over the campfire, perhaps catching a fish in the stream
and enjoying the ambience. And, along comes a giant motor home that parks
right upwind from his campsite, blocks most of the view, runs a smelly,
noisy generator all night long, plays loud music, has a couple of dogs that
bark all night, throws his trash and cigarette butts all over the place,
empties his holding tank on the ground, disgorges a couple of motorbikes and
blasts them, without mufflers, through the woods around and around for hours
(equivalent to a jet-ski) etc. Would the tent camper want to shoot the
inconsiderate *******? You bet he would. Yet motor boaters and some of the
larger sail boaters seem to think this sort of crap is cool and other
boaters will envy them and enjoy their presence. Freaking LUNATICS!

Wilbur Hubbard


Oh... land lubber. Ok... confused me for a minute.

Exactly though... pick up your sh*t. I mean HELLO?