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Canuck57[_9_]

On 21/03/2011 10:11 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:47:58 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 20:19:24 -0400, wrote:

You and Plume can't seem to accept that I was against BOTH wars.
You assume that if I think Obama is wrong that I must think Bush was
right. They were BOTH wrong, along with Clinton and the elder Bush.
When Saddam withdrew from Kuwait, our job was done there.

The Afg. war wasn't wrong and you know it. We had a legitimate reason
for going in. Just because Bush did so stupidly didn't make it wrong.

Wait ... are you saying Bush was right about something? I disagree but
it is interesting.
Afghanistan was always stupid. Sending in a few Deltas to try to
assassinate OBL was a good idea but when we missed him we should have
backed off and waited for him to pop up again.
Invading Afghanistan in force was simply stupid.

The idea that we have any business in any country's civil war keeps
biting us on the ass and we never learn.

Yeah, according to you human rights don't matter. That'll be a great
way of leading by example.

Why do we have the right to decide what "human rights" mean in a
foreign country? In real life we are using human rights to mask an
economic or political mission anyway.

Right now we are backing the "rebels" in Libya but we do not have a
clue who they really are. It is significant that this region is an
alleged Al Queda strong hold. We may end up replacing a guy that we
had "contained" to use your words, with a gang that we have no
influence over at all.

You have still not given me an example of a success story in all of
our post WWII military adventures. The best that you can point at is a
stalemate in the Bulkans where we have 124,000 blue helmets standing
between feuding factions.
BTW when I went looking for that number I was overwhelmed by reports
of the UN "peacekeepers" engaged in human trafficking and rape.
Put this on your google bar

"Bosnia peace keepers 2010"

You can see what wonderful people the UN is putting in there to help
out the population.

UN has had that problem in Africa too. UN is turning out to be a
mecenary army for politicians to bypass their own war conventions and
pull stuff that would be illegal in their own countries. Even used to
supply money and arms to insurgents to undermine the local government.