On Sat, 5 Mar 2011 12:20:12 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
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Ah... Willie, these are all patents, no record of them ever being
manufactured. Show us a vendor.... otherwise it is all smoke and
mirrors.

If you object to those, then here is a very popular cam piton that isn't
hammered in:

http://www.mrcarabiner.com/gear_shop...on--left-.html

You must enjoy being smacked down, Bruce. LOL! How many times must I prove
you wrong before you withdraw an erroneous statement?

Nice try Willie-boy but you need to read the small print. These are
specialized pitons to use in thin cracks. and you don't simply "place"
them into the crack you tap, i.e., use a hammer to drive them in. the
site you quoted has a spelling mistake (topping for tapping) but other
sites use the correct spelling.

So, once again you take a prat-fall right out in public.


Wilbur Hubbard

Cheers,

Bruce