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Default Winning elections is not good enough

On Tue, 01 Mar 2011 16:47:16 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:51:32 -0800,
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:51:21 -0500,
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Sure thing! I guess that was the same sort of decision that was made
post WW1. That worked out pretty well, didn't it.

False equivalency again.

Really? Well, you just got done saying you don't care about the German
economy. That's what we said after WW1.

Do you really think the best way to help the German economy is to
occupy them?

No. I think the best thing for the US to do is to carefully reduce our
presence there without damaging their economy.

Yet we keep kicking that can down the road too.


Yes. So? You're so skeptical that we can't reform our tax code, but
you have no problem believing we can get out of all our commitments
(treaty and otherwise) in 180 days.


I am skeptical that we would do either but I know we could and should.


Yet you're promoting one vs. the other. I don't see any justification
for that.



Maybe we can get rid of some nukes... oh wait, this was opposed by all
those fiscal conservative Republicans.

Nukes are probably the most cost effective weapons system we have if
you are looking about a deterrent from another super power.


Which super power would that be? China? I don't think they're
interested.


Why is China building a stealth fighter? Why do they still have a
bunch of nukes themselves and the missiles to get them here?


Do you think that's going to help them collect on the debt we owe
them? Seems kinda dumb to me.

I agree we have more than we need. The problem is disposing of them is
more expensive than storing them. Most are technically "disarmed"
though from what we are told. The triggers are not with the booster.


Disarmed? Huh? If it's so expensive, and we've already disarmed them,
why are we spending billions on them?


"Billions is not a lot in the DoD budget."


Yeah, I guess $50+ billion isn't that much...


That is still not where most of the money goes. It goes into "jobs"
building hardware we don't need that are scattered across 435
congressional districts.


And, your solution is....


I told you before, transfer the money and the jobs to infrastructure
improvements.

I know! I know! Don't vote for the treaty!


I am in favor of drawing down the nukes.
A few hundred is a credible deterrent.
I just don't expect it to save much money.


Look it up.