As much as it pains me to defend JAX, I think the fact
that he started a new thread to discuss this topic is
legitimate. If you are not interested in this topic which
primarily deals with moving astern, then don't participate.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Shen44" wrote in message
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Subject: push vs pull vis a vis rudders
From: (JAXAshby)

NO CRAP, Dipsquat. Would you try and learn to read a post for actual
content
and not just what you want the content to be !
Once again, the original post on thrust vectoring was talking about rudder
use
when "kicking the engine AHEAD" ... NOT when kicking the engine astern and
all
this has developed from there ..... try to follow along, as basically, all
your
longwinded dissertations about astern have had nothing to do with the
subject
at hand ..... typically.

Shen


schlackoff, the rudders don't control anything in reverse, unless the
boat is
also moving backwards. They can't.