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On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:41:11 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:23:21 -0800, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 01:44:59 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 20:40:36 -0800, wrote:

It is a fact that all working class wages stack on the lowest price of
labor and move up from there. I am sure you want a high minimum wage
but, strangely, you support a whole economy of illegals who work for a
fraction of that amount.

Really? How are plumbers affected by migrant farm workers?

When they hire helpers.
A tomato picker will also dig trenches for plumbers when the tomato
crop is on the truck. (or any number of other "labor" jobs that might
get a real employee if the illegal labor wasn't there)
Harry would say a union sanctioned apprentice

Hahaha... that's funny! All those plumbers running around in cities
hiring farm workers to dig trenches! No doubt! None at all!

Have you ever actually been on a construction job? ...
I didn't think so.

Yes, actually I have.

If you don't speak spanish you won't have many people to talk to
around here. (at least before the crash) The only difference between a
tomato picker and a construction laborer is which van they get in when
they leave the house in the morning.

So, what you're saying is that because someone speaks a foreign
language, they must be illegal aliens. Perhaps you'd like to intern
them.

In the construction industry there was a lot of work for illegals when
the journeymen had all the skilled work they could handle. That is not
really true right now and a lot of them went home. The skilled trade
is doing all of the work now, just to have work
Actually I was talking to the VP of the biggest building supply around
here and he says they have called the bottom and see the building
business coming back here. I imagine the labor will start trickling
back if ICE doesn't keep up the pace.

The fact still remains, if the illegal labor is not available they
have to hire "legal" help and they will be paying a better wage.

Feel free to go out to the tomato field and take a job. Give us a
break. You need to wise up and stop blaming farm workers for all your
problems.

I don't need a job right now and I do have more marketable skills if I
did. That is not true for a lot of people.

That's true most of the time. You're the one complaining.

Who blamed anyone, this is the second time you have said this without
actually citing anything.

You just got done blaming farm workers for supplanting plumbing jobs.

I will blame illegals for driving down the cost of labor but that is
simple, undisputed fact. The only reason anyone would assume the
numerous risks of hiring undocumented workers is the ridiculously low
price. That does take jobs from legal. higher priced workers. When
unemployment in construction was hovering in the 1-2%, we could use
all that labor and still have well paying jobs on the top of the
pyramid. That is not true now.

It's nonsense and totally disputed, since it's fiction except in some
very narrow circumstances. I see you're back to the false equivalency
mantra.

It turns out, when times are hard, Americans will do those jobs.

Times are tough, yet very few are interested. Look it up.