On Jan 7, 1:12*am, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:38:50 -0800, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:19:19 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:38:07 -0800, wrote:

On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:48:07 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 10:55:11 -0800, wrote:

Yeah... really hard....

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dcno...-of-federal-wo...

I guarantee you they will get every dime of their pay, even though
they stayed home. This is just another "shut down the government"
thing like the mid 90s. Nobody lost a dime then either.
I suspect people in LA don't understand that.

Well, I'm not sure what to say. You claim that the UofM is either
wrong or lying, and you don't believe that Fed. workers were in
jeopardy, even though that would have been the case had Bunning not
relented. I'm not sure what you believe at this point.

I know how these appropriations fights are fought. They "shut down"
some function of government, there is a lot of saber rattling and the
citizens see locked doors but the AFGE agreement doesn't change,
nobody gets fired and when they finally hammer out the deal they want
on the hill everyone gets their back pay ... if the paychecks ever
stopped. They usually just keep coming right on schedule.
You say there are layoffs where civil service workers actually lost
their job and you still haven't showed us any.You have shown early
retirements and paid days off but no layoffs.
You also have to understand how the 171 process works. If your
government position is eliminated you get the highest priority to be
hired by any other agency. Basically they have a hard time hiring
anyone until all current employees are in new positions so they find
you a job (just like any other union). Again this virtually always
happens before you miss a paycheck. In fact in all of the 70s
relocations, I don't know a single person who lost a dime. It is more
likely that you get a promotion but you can always find something.

Like this one?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20101220/...nment_shutdown...

Yes exactly like that one. EVERY ONE OF THOSE EMPLOYEES GOT BACK PAY
in spite of a lot of them not working. On these "shutdowns", part of
the deal that finally gets hammered down on the hill is that the AFGE
members get their back pay whether they actually came to work or not.
Most stay home. That is part of the "Close the Washington Monument"
blackmail that shutting down the government imposes on the citizens.
They usually target the most visible agencies and then the news media
hypes it up. They bury the story that these people actually get their
money on the back of the social page, if it gets covered at all,

Did you read the story?
"In all, 28 days saw a partial government shutdown. The second lapse
was the longest in history at 22 days. The effects and consequences
were temporary even though millions of people were effected."

"The effect was TEMPORARY" They got paid.

Again you still have not talked about anyone LOSING their job in a
layoff.

That is because the ignorant twit has nothing to accomplish in her
miserable existance but to argue.