On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:41:55 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 13:34:51 -0800, wrote:



A federal Civil Service worker is about as hard to get rid of as a
tenured professor. There has not been a real RIF (layoff) since the
50s. There have been some reorganizations that eliminated jobs but the
workers simply moved across the street, or in some cases just stayed
where they were and GSA changed the sign on the building. (The Carter
administration was probably the best example of that). A GSA guy I
knew said they were thinking about using thumb screws to mount the
signs because they changed so often.

Completely untrue.

How do you know what a GSA guy told me. I bet you didn't even know
what GSA was without looking it up.
If you are saying it is easy to fire a federal worker you are just
ignorant of the US Civil Service.

http://www.downsizinggovernment.org/


Cato Institute? Do you know who they are?
That is a Libertarian group saying what the government SHOULD DO.
That has nothing to do with what they actually do.

"Vice-President Gore leads the Administration’'S efforts to reinvent
government, making it work better, cost less, and get results that
Americans care about. Under his leadership, the size of the federal
[civilian] workforce has been reduced by about 350,000 people, and
common sense changes have been made in the way government works
that have saved the taxpayers $ 137 billion."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/3973816/Re...ral-Downsizing



It is possible to fire a government worker for stealing or not showing
up but if they are there every day, you can't fire them for
incompetence or goofing off..They just get shuffled off to another
agency if anything happens at all. Usually they just get put back in a
corner and ignored.

Completely untrue.

Again, how the hell do you know about this? How many years have you
worked in federal offices and how many federal worker bees do you
know? I was in DC for 38 years and about half of the people I have
known all my life were federal workers or the kids of federal workers.
It is what they do in that city. I also spent 15 years working in
federal offices, most of the time down where the GS 5-11s work. I am
not going to say the slugs get promoted but they can just sit in a GS
5 or 7 job for years, taking their in grade step raises and do fine.

http://www.redstate.com/nikitas3/201...rs-fired-good/

A good start but I said US Civil Service, not the states.

See previous.


The states are going to be getting rid of lots of people because they
are broke but I do not see much happening beyond normal attrition in
the federal government. The only way they have actually trimmed the
size since the 50s was not hiring people to replace ones who retired
and even doing that is very rare. I am not sure the USCS has actually
reduced headcount since the Eisenhower administration.

Now you are.

Obama has increased the size of the federal workforce by 10% in 2
years.

And the problem with this is.....?

Average annual salary of all full-time employees was $79,179 in 2008.

http://federaljobs.net/overview.htm

Sorry, but I don't need a job.


http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...-civil-service


Uh huh.. the heritage foundation. Sure. We should believe them....