On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 06:14:26 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

A discussion about "chain rodes rip out cleats" would be on topic and
possibly very funny!

Probably , that is as long as it's someone else's boat.

Well I'm here to tell you that they don't rip out cleats, not if
rigged with a properly sized snubber line and hook.