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On Oct 13, 6:10 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Oct 13, 3:09 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Oct 13, 1:09 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...d/articles/201...

"Meanwhile, 30 major corporations are still able to offer
low-cost
health insurance to their employees only because they have
received
one-year waivers of the new rules from the Department of Health
and
Human Services. What happens when those waivers expire is anybody
s
guess. But this much is clear: If the law with its expensive
mandates
remains on the books, millions of Americans are going to lose the
health care plans they have now plans the president repeatedly
promised they could keep."

It's an opinion piece. Cite some facts.

Why? You didn't cite a single article or "factoid", you just
presented *your* opinion. My article, if you had actually read it,
was not an opinion piece but offered solid facts of people losing
their insurance because of obamacare. As they point out if you are
required to insure people and provide expanded benefits that weren't
there before, that extra money will have to come from somewhere, or
the insurance company will simply close up shop. Then they cite
examples.

Insurance costs are being driven up by obamacare. Insurance
companies
are shutting down, leaving people uninsured because of obamacare.
How
much of that do you like?

I have an opinion, the author had an opinion, and you have an opinion.
I've
cited facts many times that support the proposition that the insurance
reform was flawed but better than what was previously in place.

If your opinion is that the costs will go up, that's fine, but it's
not a
fact that has been actually verified. It's an opinion.

It's a fact. Mine has gone up, and the insurance company verified it
was because of obamacare. Fact. Other company's policies have been
verified to have gone up for the same reason. Reported here and in
the news. Still other companies are just pulling out because of the
increased costs. Reported in my cite and in the news.

So, you believe what the insurance companies are telling you? Because...
they have your best interest in mind?

Maybe you can explain how all this new coverage for millions will come
for free? No one has ever thought that there would be no rate
increase from obamacare. Except you?

Don't need to explain it, since that's never been claimed. However, cost of
insuring people pales in comparison to the cost of not covering people.
That's an incontrovertible fact.


Look at McDonalds...there's a fact for you.

Your opinions still have no cites, and are not facts. If it's the
best you can do, we must agree to disagree.

McDs? Your "cite" was an opinion piece. It's not been in the news (except
Faux News of course).

Sorry, you're wrong on both accounts. My "cite" (your word) used
facts. You still have not provided a *single* cite for your opinion.
And the McD news article did not come from Fox, it appears to have
come from the LATimes. Fox and others may have repeated it, but the
article I linked is not false at all. You continue to fail.

Still waiting for link to actual facts and not opinion. Which opinion of
mine? Let me know and I'll supply one if possible. If I can't, then it would
be an opinion. E.g., The moon is made of cheese... an opinion, not supported
by the facts.

Bummer about McD's. They'll have to pay more for insuring their workers...
people who get pretty close to minimum wage.

Why don't you attack me personally. That's what you're leading up to with
"You continue to fail."