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On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 05:59:17 -0400, Secular Humoresque
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On 10/7/10 2:05 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 18:39:57 -0700,
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What does Karl Rove have to do with a health care bill written in
Harry Reids office?

It wasn't "written in Harry Reid's office." Nice try. The
Republicans
made
lots of contributions, as did Democrats, and unfortunately too many
lobbyists and not enough regular people.

Bull****, the bill that came from the Democrats in the senate was
written without any input from the republicans. Nice try tho.

Completely untrue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...ealth_car.html

Nice try with an alternate set of facts.

Those are "ideas" the GOP still did not have anyone around when the
bill was written.

Yet those "ideas" were part of the bill. So, the Democrats who wrote
the
final draft didn't just use their own ideas. QED

Of the "five" Ezra says are in the bill he really only cited 3. There
is no real tort reform and the fifth was not even defined. I agree
they threw a few bones in there to try to get a GOP vote or two but
the fact remains the GOP was not in there helping to write this bill.
Normally these kinds of things come out of a bipartisan committee, not
the Senate Majority leader's office.


It should be obvious even to you that no matter what was in that bill,
the Republicans wouldn't have voted for it if it represented any sort of
progress because, as we know, the Republicans are doing whatever they
can to prevent *any* legislative accomplishments for the current
president.

The country would have been far better off if Obama had just said, "We
gave the Republicans their chance many times, **** 'em."

The bill that finally was passed is too compromised and is nothing more
than a beginning in a process that will take decades. We're not going to
resolve our medical insurance catastrophes until we get the private
for-profit sector out of the primary medical insurance business. There
should be nothing sacrosanct about "profit making" when it doesn't serve
the public's interest. The United States does not exist for the purpose
of corporate profit.
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They passed the bill they though they could hold all 60 democratic
votes with. If they had leaned any more to the left they would have
walked away with nothing. I still think nothing may have been better
and take another swing at it.
The real problem is that the insurance companies bribed enough
democrats that their success was going to be assured. Everything else
was window dressing. All this bill did was deliver 20 million more
paying customers to the insurers. There was no help with the price and
the taxpayer picked up a little more of it. The money still goes to
the same weasels you guys hate.

No, that's not "all it did." That's just a talking point and has no basis in
reality.