On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 20:09:22 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:



"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:29:28 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


"During his presidency Buchanan supported the attempt to establish Kansas
as
a slave state. He also failed to take decisive action when South Carolina
left the Union. Buchanan argued that the Constitution granted the federal
government no power to "coerce a State into submission." He also
recommended
that the Constitution should be amended to guarantee slavery where it
already existed."

calif bill will just shrugs his shoulders and say 'so?'


The civil war was not about slavery.

yes, it was.

Was economics and states rights as the
driving forces.

ROFLMAO!! hey genius...you think slaves had nothing to do with states
rights and economics??

HAHAHAHAHA

Lincoln did not issue an executive order, the Emancipation
Proclamation, until 1863.

to prevent europeans from throwing in their lot with the south in a
balance of power play

The war started in 1861. The fact that Lincoln,
a Republican, the party of anti-slavery was elected POTUS, was a driving
force for the South to start seceding, but was enough to cause states to
start seceding. You do realize the Emancipation Proclamation did not free
all the slaves? Only the slaves in Northern (Union) controlled states

there were almost no slaves in the north. some in maryland...a few in
other states..