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On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 14:24:17 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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In any case, it's pretty evenly divided between public and private. Of
course, the teacher's unions are evil, right?


Of course.
All I have to point to is our standing in the world (#23 or 26
depending on who you believe) and the amount of money we spend(#2 per
student).
Education rates worse than health care in that regard and we know how
you feel about health care.

It is not just the union but the total lack of "management" in US
education.
They spend about 60% of all the school tax money on administration but
they don't have any managers.
People who can't do, teach
Teachers who can't teach become administrators.

So, much of the money spent on administration and infrastructure (esp.) is
wasted? Hardly. And, hate to break it to you... the teachers and the
administration are TWO different entities. So, administration = no
management. Tell that to the principals.

Principals are not really managers. They generally have no business
sense or experience yet they are typically running a $5 million dollar
enterprise. (the average "in school" spending per school in our school
system)

So, you think having an MBA as a manager is going to make for a better
education? What do you think this MBA is going to do to promote a better
education vs. someone who is an educator by trade?

Who do you think she be doing the teaching if not the teachers? Then, you
claim they should be administrators!

This argument makes no sense. The expression is pretty hollow.

The failed teachers should just be sent on their way, not made
"managers". The reality is you can't fire a bad teacher so you have to
promote them.

Huh? Who's the manager now?? The principal? You're saying failed teachers
are promoted to ??

The reality is there are no managers in most school systems.School
boards have billion dollar budgets and nobody there seems capable of
efficiently managing that $1.428 billion budget (what my county
spends). We are the #40 school system. 39 spend more than we do.
If I was the king, the first thing I would do to cut education
spending would be to privatize the food, the busses and maintaining
the property. That alone is over a half a billion in our system and
all of them are horribly managed.

Depends on if there enough safeguards in place. That means regulation and
oversight. Who, pray tell, will be doing that?