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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 05:14:26 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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On Sep 29, 1:09*am, "Califbill" wrote:
"LG" wrote in message

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John H wrote:
Trying to decide which to get - between Toyota, Ford, GMC. Toyota doesn't
make a
diesel, but the question becomes, 'Why diesel'? The price of the truck is
about
$8K more than the gasser. The diesels get better mileage, supposedly, but
diesel
also costs more.

Any ideas out there?

Don't buy into that E85 Flex fuel bull**** from Dodge and GMC. *The fuel
economy drops at roughly the same percentage as the fuel savings. *In the
end you just fill up more often.

Diesels last a long, long time and have a ton of torque. *You don't need
the torque unless a 30 footer is in your future!

Depends where you tow, and what you tow. *I drive a crewcab 2004 Chevy
diesel. *I tow a 4400# boat over 9-10,000' passes. *Love the power. *Also
like the mileage. * The newer trucks get a little more mileage as they have
an extra gear in the tranny. *Towing the boat at 65 and with the popup slide
in camper, which adds 1500# to the truck and 8" to the height I get about
13-14.5 mpg. * Driving to Los Angeles and the truck without camper gets
about 19 mpg at 80 mph. *Maintenance is about 2x for oil changes. *The new
Tundra's are nice, and have a 10,000# tow rating, but the mileage sucks when
towing, and about average for any of the trucks when not towing. *My son in
laws older Tundra is still running good at 150k. *But he also does not tow.
Towing and not needing mountain climbing power, I would get a gas rig, as
the difference buys a lot of gas. *The difference is less than $8k as the
extra money normally includes a lot of nice options. *Which ever vehicle you
buy, get the power extension mirrors if towing.

Around my area, there's probably more farmer owned diesel pickups
than gas.

The construction guys like the diesel pickups too. I imagine there are
plenty on the used market now that they are out of work.

Easier to fill up with the off-road diesel fuel.