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On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:26:06 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Why would you take criminal murder of guns off the table when
considering
gun deaths?

Because criminals do not care about gun laws. It has exactly zero
effect on how they do business. If you banned guns, it would only give
them another lucrative business to get into.
Name one thing that has ever been banned and became unavailable.

Actually it does. Mostly, unfortunately after the fact of the crime, but
that's better than nothing. The point is to reduce the number of guns
available... to secure them better as well.

It's not a matter of being unavailable. It's a matter of no longer being
used or minimally being used. Few things are absolute, except maybe vodka.


You mean like "when guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns"?

Look at the UK crime statistics since they have totally outlawed guns.
They are doing worse.
On the other hand the states that started allowing concealed carry are
doing better than before.
Statistical anomaly?
Perhaps,... but the whole Brady campaign is based on statistical
anomalies.

?? This doesn't look worse to me...

http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm