bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:39:19 -0500, Jim wrote:
actually i agree with milton friedman; free trade, so the evidence
shows, raises standards of living EXCEPT when it becomes a race to the
bottom.
Too bad for you and your buddy Milton Friedman it's manifestly evident
it IS a race to the bottom.
you can't raise standards of living in the US by forcing us to pay
more for the things we buy. you increase standards by setting minimum
standards for living conditions in countries, similiar to setting free
trade conditions. that way you're not c ompeting by destroying living
standards
You raise standards by having everybody working at a decent wage.
Real unemployment is close to 20%.
Foreclosures and personal bankruptcies are at record levels.
How's that working for you?
Don't act stupid like you don't know Chinamen are slaving away at 60
cents an hour so you and other working Americans can have more toys.
That's how the the "rich" are getting "richer."
Your attitude about free trade pads their pockets.
And none of those NAFTA work condition guidelines were ever enforced so
that makes you and your buddy Milton full of **** again.
the fact is that the decrease in american living standards has
resulted in transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy.
productiviity in this country INCREASED over the last decade but the
middle class got NONE of it
The fact is that anybody here with a job at a decent wage is living
large. That would be you in spades.
You're just another hypocrite who wants more for himself and bull****s
about how good unions are, and how good the middle class is - except
when they cost you more for a product that you can get cheap by
exploiting Chinese labor.
Then you want those Chinamen working for 60 cents an hour to serve you.
Out of sight out of mind, hey?
That's why you won't be pinned down on "middle class" wages.
Want to think of yourself as a "working man."
Same as the kid serving you at Mickey D's.
Easier for you to rail against the "rich" you're jealous of.
I got news for you pal. China is probably cranking out 10's of
thousands of chemical engineers, and no Mickey D flippers.
Maybe India too.
You're next. And you don't have the experience to take the job from the
Mickey D's kid.
But maybe you can occupy yourself holding hands with your buddy Milton.
Walk on the beach together rhapsodizing about free trade.
And wondering why Americans forsook you for cheaper Chinese engineers.
But you probably still won't get it. You got no damn sense.
Same as other "free traders" like you I've dealt with over the years who
ended up unemployed and wondering what the **** hit them.
Better hope you're working in the defense industry.
so while you're saying that americans should pay MORE for the things
we buy, the LOGICAL argument is that americans should b paid for the
things we produce. but we're not. the rich just keep sucking up all
the money for themselves
You wouldn't know logic if it hit you with a 2X4.
You proved that in this, probably the most lame, counter-factual and
illogical post you've made here.
IT'S AS IF YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT OFFSHORING OF JOBS IS THE BIGGEST
DRAIN ON THE ECONOMY AND THE MIDDLE CLASS!
And I suspect you don't, because your hypocrisy won't allow it.
You want everything Chinaman-cheap, but your salary should increase.
That's all you've ever said here. Oh, yeah. Bush. Cheney. The Rich.
You echo deplume's lib impulses in some respects, but you want to nuke
all the Muslims so I can't call you a lib.
go ahead. continue to blame the middle class. it's a lolsing argument
based on emotion, not logic.
I'm tired of your "middle class" rant. It's all you got.
I never hear you pose solutions, just ****ing complain about the "rich"
and GWB, and Cheney.
No better than Loogy sniffing Harry's ass all the time.
I mention how Obama created 6000 "middle class" green energy jobs
overseas instead of here with tax money that will come out of the
pockets of the American "middle class."
Multi-millionaire don't know how many houses I own John McCain was first
off the blocks whining about the "buy American" with stimulus money
clause in getting it killed.
Expected you would say that's bad policy, and that the opposite should
be done to create jobs, and maybe offer some more incentives or
techniques the government could apply to bring jobs back here.
Get the "middle class" back and strong.
But nooooooo. You cry like a baby about paying more for goods, jump up
on Milton Friedman's and John McCain's lap and stick your thumb in your
mouth.
Taxpayer money to create jobs offshore - that's all good to you.
Because you want everything cheap and your salary raised.
Good bye. Won't wish you good luck, you selfish prick.
Like Kurtz said, you're part of what's wrong with this country.
Here's a parting gift if you're an iPhone putz.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/07/bu...07suicide.html
Jim - Glad to be done with this joker. He's not even consistent enough
to qualify for wingnut.